WashPost Makes History: First Paper to Call for Prosecution of its Own Source (After Wins Pulitzer)

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    This is what happens when Obama supporters/fake liberals run the show. The Washington Post won the Pulitzer for materials Snowden provided to them. **** Obama. **** the WaPo editorial board.


    WashPost Makes History: First Paper to Call for Prosecution of Its Own Source (After Accepting Pulitzer)

    https://theintercept.com/2016/09/18...n-of-its-own-source-after-accepting-pulitzer/

    THREE OF THE FOUR media outlets which received and published large numbers of secret NSA documents provided by Edward Snowden – The Guardian, The New York Times and The Intercept – have called for the U.S. government to allow the NSA whistleblower to return to the U.S. with no charges. That’s the normal course for a news organization, which owes its sources duties of protection, and which – by virtue of accepting the source’s materials and then publishing them – implicitly declares the source’s information to be in the public interest.

    But not The Washington Post. In the face of a growing ACLU-and-Amnesty-led campaign to secure a pardon for Snowden, timed to this weekend’s release of the Oliver Stone biopic “Snowden,” the Post editorial page not only argued today in opposition to a pardon, but explicitly demanded that Snowden — their paper’s own source — stand trial on espionage charges or, as a “second-best solution,” “accept[] a measure of criminal responsibility for his excesses and the U.S. government offers a measure of leniency.”

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    It’s another reason why:


    Americans' Trust in Mass Media Sinks to New Low

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/195542/americans-trust-mass-media-sinks-new-low.aspx

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' trust and confidence in the mass media "to report the news fully, accurately and fairly" has dropped to its lowest level in Gallup polling history, with 32% saying they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the media. This is down eight percentage points from last year.​
     
  2. MacNut macrumors Core

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    They gladly published the material and begged for a Pulitzer prize first.
     
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    Well I guess they will stick to only State approved reporting now.
     
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    If Snowden had merely (?) revealed the existence of the NSA metadata gathering program; the one that directly collected information within the United States and it's citizens, then he would arguably have a stronger case for a pardon or executive clemency.

    Americans, as well as our lawmakers, judges, and privacy and civil liberties advocates, were all rightly alarmed at the existence of NSA surveillance within the US.

    But Snowden's leaked document trove didn't stop there. It revealed detailed information on the NSA's worldwide intelligence gathering operations. Everything from surveillance of Taliban operatives in Afghanistan to counter-intelligence operations in China.

    People might not like this, but it is the NSA's job to collect intelligence information on foreign powers. The full extent of the damage and costs incurred by Snowden's trove of leaked documents will probably never be fully known. But rest assured: it is significant. Edward Snowden endangered the national security of this country through his actions.

    The House Permanent Subcommittee on Intelligence released an executive summary of some of the damage caused by Snowden. It's not pleasant reading.

     
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    Exactly, Snowden is a traitor and should rot in prison for the rest of his life. If he was such as righteous hero, he would not have fled to Russia.
     
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    He didn't flee to Russia, he got stuck there.

    So it's ok for the government to illegally spy on it's citizens as long as terror attacks are stopped.... and how well has that worked out for us.
     
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    Let the Americans decide via Referendum. Do you side with your government illegally spying on citizens without warrants, or with the person who revealed that the government was illegally doing this.
     
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    I am for not revealing our secret spying programs and technologies to our enemies.
     
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    Even when they are being used illegally against the citizens of the country? The real traitors here are the NSA operatives who followed through on these spying directives.
     
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    You cannot reason with Hoebama supporters, they won’t listen to facts no matter how many times you post them.
     
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    After getting stuck in China? Seems a lot to swallow.
     
  12. Jess13, Sep 18, 2016
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    All you do is spew propaganda and lies, you’re laughable. Yeah, the “only” thing Snowden exposed on illegal spying on Americans was the “metadata” program. I have already told you previously numerous times how you’re wrong on this, yet you continue to spew propaganda and lies. Pathetic.

    You’re on an Apple-centric website and forum, and Hoebama illegally forced Apple into giving up Americans’ CONTENT. I don’t want to get banned for attacking you how you should be attacked, but I’ll say this: You have no idea what you’re talking about or you’re intentionally trying to deceive others.


    NSA Prism program taps in to user data of Apple, Google and others

    • Top-secret Prism program claims direct access to servers of firms including Google, Apple and Facebook
    • Companies deny any knowledge of program in operation since 2007

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

    The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.

    The NSA access is part of a previously undisclosed program called Prism, which allows officials to collect material including search history, the content of emails, file transfers and live chats, the document says.

    The Guardian has verified the authenticity of the document, a 41-slide PowerPoint presentation – classified as top secret with no distribution to foreign allies – which was apparently used to train intelligence operatives on the capabilities of the program. The document claims "collection directly from the servers" of major US service providers.

    HoebamaPRISM.jpg


    The rest of your comment isn’t even worth addressing, because it’s the same incorrect, fake ass ******** you always say. Laughable.


    Edward Snowden’s a hero. I am going to see the movie tonight. :p


     
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    You're not even a US citizen so you're opinion on the matter doesn't even count. But to answer your question, there is a big difference between being a whistleblower and disclosing top secret information to foreign countries. Snowden is a traitor for doing the latter.
     
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    What did Snowden disclose to “foreign countries”? You mean, what they saw when Snowden publicly disclosed to Americans through the press, from The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, and others? Or you mean propaganda that Snowden secretly gave information to foreign countries? If the latter—post your proof.
     
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    Had the US not pulled his passport he would not be stuck...
     
  16. Jess13 thread starter Suspended

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    And if Hoebama hadn’t forced down the diplomatic immunity protected presidential jet of Evo Morales.

    http://forums.macrumors.com/threads...ut-out-operation.1984852/page-2#post-23170479
     
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    Actually I am a dual citizen, so my opinion counts, you and anyone else who supports the government spying on its own people illegally are traitors. The founding fathers would roll in their grave.
     
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    You seem to be challenged with your reading comprehension skills which is typical for Trump supporters.
     
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    It's like a Trump speech.
     
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    Why fly via Moscow?
     
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    Sad to see the same paper that broke the Watergate scandal thanks to illegally retrieved information by a government employee asking for the prosecution of a source.
     
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    I'm not a Trump supporter. 0/2.
     
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    That didn't benefits Americas enemies. There is a difference.
     
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    Are you kidding me? It divided the nation so much that the US basically lost all the leverage on every matter of foreign policy. The repercussions of Watergate were vast (rightfully so. Nixon's was a big no-no!).
    The consequences of Watergate were devastating. Both Ford and Carter paid for it.

    Also, the NYT - or anyone else in the press - did not request prosecution for whoever leaked the Pentagon Papers.
     
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    Not sure you can tie in a statistic about media trust and the fact that the WP wants to prosecute. What trust is being broken? Did the WP not report information about Snowden and/or what revealed fairly or accurately? The fact that they wrote stories but still believe he's guilty and want to prosecute breaks our trust how?
     

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