Well, well... well... Look at which party is going to have a contest.

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  1. 1458279 Suspended

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    Everyone's been talking about how mixed up the GOP is and how they're going to have a contested convention...

    FEEL THE BERN !!!

    Sanders: Clinton team thinks race 'is over. They're wrong'

    http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/...rs-clinton-team-thinks-race-over-theyre-wrong


    Guess who's going to get tag-teamed. Hillary's about to get it from both sides and they both have big money and plenty of ammo.

    Trumps knock out record: 16-0

    Hillary doesn't seem be able to knock out a 74 year old socialist.

    The Dems were happy as can be thinking the GOP was going to a contested convention and now they are in disarray.

    Let's see if the GOP can group together behind Trump. Watch the poll number climb right in front of the Dem's contested convention. Maybe even watch Bernie go (I).

    Any way you slice it, these are interesting times.
     
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    Clinton....LOL.....country will be destined for another round of fail with her at the helm. I love what he's doing to the base Hiltlery is after. Let her burn....in hell.
     
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    Clinton can't really lose at this point.
     
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    Because electing the guy who doesn't even know how things work spells success? The guy who says he will bring jobs back to this country even though he farms his own products out overseas? That guy? LOL...oh man are some people in for a disappointment when their messiah lets them down, doesn't fulfill all those promises and they realized they have been conned.
     
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    So Obama and Clinton know so much that all we have before us today spells success and a job well done? I think the people from all sides are clearly sending them the message that the answer is NOT!

    In terms of being a business man and outsourcing his work, you can't fault him for doing what the politicians who know how to "spell success" have let happen. He's a business man. I would be once he adjusts the BS System to reward companies to keep jobs here vs outsourcing them he too will move production.

    Obama and Clinton are the con-job heroes IMO. Where else but in America could people see what they haven't done as a success and yet still support their efforts. Again, the masses on both sides are coming out in revolt because perhaps finally, the citizens are waking up to being conned but smooth political BS.
     
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    The idea that the Democrats are in disarray is wishful thinking. Bernie will stay in it, sure. But he doesn't have Trump's enormous ego. If Bernie can't change the minds of superdelegates (probable at this point), he'll do what's right and use his status to try to influence things like the party platform and the vice presidential pick. And that's fairly standard election year stuff.

    As far as Obama goes, he's only passed health care reform, pulled us out of a recession, brought the unemployment rate down from 10% to 5%, saved the US auto industry, repealed Don't Ask, Don't Tell, helped renewable energy flourish, and killed Osama bin Laden. What a fraud. :rolleyes:
     
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    All Trump has now is time on his hands to bring down Hillary. Time that she does not have to defend because she is still defending Bernie. She has no chance in a general election now and to be honest, I don't know that she has the stamina to keep her health in check for the rest of the battle.
     
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    Clinton needs less then 200 more delegates to win, with 1163 still open, odds are not in Sanders favor at this point. But keep on wishing.
     
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    Bernie Sanders will not be the nominee. LOL
     
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    @KarlJay you are fantasizing, Hillary currently has a 2v1 deligate advantage. I don't see that changing enough for you to see your dream realized. ;)
     
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    If Bernie keeps pouring on popular delegates, there is a possibility that the super delegates switch. None of those super delegates have said they would switch, they were designed to keep incumbents in office but there is a chance and Bernie has money. Great for Trump!
     
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    I marvel that so many working- and middle-class Americans believe that Trump is on their side. His life as a rich person might as well be on another planet. I bet he doesn't drive or even carry any money. He has about as much knowledge of my life as a middle class American as an eggplant.
     
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    I marvel that so many working- and middle-class Americans believe that Clinton is on their side. Her life as a powerful, and rich, political figure might as well be on another planet. I bet she doesn't drive or even carry any money. She has about as much knowledge of my life as a middle class American as an eggplant.
     
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    Actually it's looking like she can't really WIN at this point. The big headline might have been Trump wins Indiana, but what about Clinton loses Indiana?

    Yep, that's right. Clinton loses Indiana and Bernie says he's STILL in.

    Clinton hasn't defined herself. She's restarted her run a number of times, started out with a "scooby van", doesn't know where she stand on trade agreements or pipelines, now she loves coal?

    Who is Hillary? The coal loving job creator or the one that passed trade agreements?
     
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    well the poor ignorant trump followers are looking up to a rich guy that treats everyone like poo? well gee
     
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    as opposed to poor ignorant hillary followers who look up to a rich woman who says one while promoting war & supporting the offshoring of jobs via NAFTA/TPP? that feels much better to you?
     
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    Interesting attitude towards the voters. Bernie has the voters and if the super delegates followed the will of the voters, it would be a closer race. Bernie and his followers are being smashed by the Clinton machine and if Bernie betrays his voters, they might grow a back bone and leave.

    As far as Obama goes:
    more than 1/2 the co-ops have failed, the largest health care ins company is leaving the system, the rates are up, and you can't keep your Dr if you like your Dr.

    Obama is the 1st president to NEVER get 3% GDP growth in ANY of his 8 years.

    We have few people working now than when Obama took office

    We have the SLOWEST GDP growth over a 10 year period in US history.

    More part time jobs than full time jobs.

    Job creation didn't even keep up with population growth.

    So yea, he's got a lot to brag about :rolleyes:

    If Obama was doing such a great job, the nation wouldn't be so divided. Obama had nearly brought the US into civil war.
     
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    she has NOT managed to beat a socialist, feel the Bern.
     
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    Hillary Clinton should have been president from 1993 to 2001, she would have been more effective than Bill Clinton who ended up focusing on extracurricular activities rather than the distinguished office of the President and presiding over the country properly.
    It's my opinion a circuit breaker is required in the USA and Bernie Sanders is the right person to become President from 2016 (with an option of Hillary Clinton as Vice President).
     
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    In the real world, Bernie won and only netted 6 more delegates than Clinton in Indiana. There is no path for Bernie to win the nomination. If he's smart, he get CLinton to agree to support some of his proposals publicly, he'll wholeheartedly throw his support behind her and urge his followers to do the same and go back to the Senate where he'll wield a lot more power than he does now.

    CORRECTION: He won by 5 points, netted 7 delegates and the percentage of delegates he needs to win rose from 81% to 83%. No path.
     
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    is he is smart, he would find a way to get some of his proposals put in place, Clinton's words are MEANINGLESS.
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    Hillary as VP? no thanks. I would like to see Bernie make it.
     
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    It's not just delegates, but the super delegates that can still switch. This puts Clinton in an awkward position as the people now know that her delegates are not following the will of the people and that the people's vote really doesn't count.

    There's also the issue of money. Hillary's spending like crazy, has been out raised in several months by Bernie and still hasn't made it to the general election. She's had to tap her supporters very hard and still has to come back for about a billion more for the general.

    She can hide her transcripts, but she can't hide the fact that she cheated Bernie and his voters out of their vote.

    She's the only person running that voted for the war in Iraq. Her policies lead to ISIS and the fall of Libya. That's a record to run on?
     
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    Obamafail will be gone soon and isn't exactly something that did the economy any good. I also would argue that unemployment isn't down. Let's just say the economy overall isn't reflective of him doing it much good.
     
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    I disagree with this. She played her part, certainly, but I wouldn't place the blame for Iraq, ISIS, and Libya solely on her shoulders. Quite a few people currently residing in the senate, in the DoD, the CIA, etc. etc. are at least as culpable as she is.

    Plus, Libya was a civil war we rode on the back of. We weren't responsible for the fall of Ghaddafi, but we took advantage of the situation.
     
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    You're right, Hillary is so much more in touch with middle class America. She drives a mini van (Scooby van), she was 'dead broke' (with 2 mansions). Hillary is the most dishonest person that's ever run for president.

    Isn't Hillary the 1st one to ever run while being investigated by the FBI ? ... that's something to be proud of :D
     

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