Whale activists say their catamaran was sunk by Japanese vessel

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Tomorrow, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. Tomorrow macrumors 604


    Mar 2, 2008
    Always a day away
    From http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/01/06/japan.whale.feud/index.html

    I can sympathize somewhat with both sides; I don't necessarily condone commercial whaling, but I don't condone the types of harassment groups like this are sometimes known for. My thought is if you're going to harass people doing their job, something like this is bound to happen eventually, right or wrong.

    I watched the video, and it's hard for me to tell whether or not it was deliberate - your opinion may vary.

    So what's everyone else's take?
  2. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

    Zombie Acorn

    Feb 2, 2009
    Toronto, Ontario
    One group is hunting whales another one is hunting whale hunters with no authority. After seeing the whale wars show I would have rammed their ship a long time ago.
  3. IntheNet macrumors regular


    Oct 6, 2009
    Your link not working; i.e., "Page not found"....

    Here is working link: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/01/06/japan.whale.feud/index.html

    Environmental activists have a habit of intentionally harassing Japanese whaling vessels and fleets while they are fishing; what did these nuts expect would happen? It would help if these environmental activists would respect private fishing efforts on the high seas...
  4. elfxmilhouse macrumors 6502a

    Oct 15, 2008
    Northeast USA
    that sucks. I really liked that boat too. i saw it in ny when it was docked by the intrepid.
  5. Counterfit macrumors G3


    Aug 20, 2003
    sitting on your shoulder
    Fixed that for you. And I know you don't care about facts, but there's a big difference between groups like the ELF/ALF, and the Sierra Club.

    There's nothing good in this situation. The Japanese ships kill whales for commercial gain under the guise of science, and Sea Shepherd is essentially a band of pirates with a good goal.
  6. quagmire macrumors 603


    Apr 19, 2004
    This video shows a lot IMHO.


    It is clear that the Japanese ship made a turn towards the boat. It is also clear in the video released by the Japanese, there is water being moved behind the catamaran's stern. The Japanese may have turned into the boat as a game of chicken. But, the people on the boat clearly was aiming for a collision for publicity by having it move forward. If they were smart, they would have had the boat in reverse to make it seem they tried to avoid a collision, but it was too late when the Japanese ship turned towards them. From watching an episode of whale wars, I would not be surprised if this was the Sea Shepard's intention. As in that one episode I saw, they intentionally boarded a Japanese ship so they could be taken hostage.

    Both parties are despicable. Whale hunting is disgusting and these people are nothing more then activist terrorism.
  7. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

    Zombie Acorn

    Feb 2, 2009
    Toronto, Ontario
    They went forward into the path of the ****ing huge japanese vessel, it wasn't even trying to get out of the way. Their whole purpose being out there is to harass japanese boats, that would be like an environmentalist purposely pulling in front of SUVs to stop them from polluting so much and then bitching because their tin can got crumpled.
  8. Queso macrumors G4

    Mar 4, 2006
    Whales aren't fish. They're mammals :p

    You know, land based creatures that evolved for life back in the sea ;)
  9. KingYaba macrumors 68040


    Aug 7, 2005
    Up the irons
  10. Peterkro macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2004
    Communard de Londres
  11. mcrain macrumors 68000


    Feb 8, 2002
    What's at stake depending on who is at fault, roughly $2.5 Million. Wiki
  12. AP_piano295 macrumors 65816

    Mar 9, 2005
    Didn't watch the video eh? Its abundantly clear that the Japanese ship swerves into the the catamaran.
  13. citizenzen, Feb 16, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2011

    citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    Here's why I think it was deliberate...

    • The water cannons firing from the Japanese ship indicate that it knew of the presence of the other boat.

    • The Japanese vessel is moving very quickly as the video demonstrates. Even if they couldn't turn the ship quickly enough, why didn't they cut power and attempt to slow down?

    • After the collision, the Japanese ship is able to turn. Why was there no attempt to do so before the collision? In some videos it is even evident that it turns toward the catamaran.​

    I'd say this was most likely due to a pissed off captain who just lost it.
  14. Pink∆Floyd macrumors 68020


    Nov 21, 2009
    Up There
  15. Sydde macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2009
    That is some elegant scientific research: wipe out the whales to find out if they have been killing or starving out the "fish we were actually after".

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