What A Man is Doing If He Isn’t Granted a Second Marriage

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    http://www.ijreview.com/2015/07/358...m_term=conservativedaily&utm_campaign=Culture
    I don't see the problem, he should be able to marry the other one as well.
     
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    Yeah, I remember being ridiculed for suggesting this might happen. Didn't take long, either.
     
  3. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    where is the problem? if a guy OR a girl wants to have multiple husbands/wives/SSP & they are consenting adults then where is the issue?
     
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    I don't see a problem with it provided that all three are adults and willing participants. Marriages are hard enough between two people let a lone 3 ... if they can make it work why not?
     
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    3-4-8 don't care.
     
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    Oh man 8 people in a marriage... imagine the ceremony do you Jane take Alex, Todd, Rebecca, Steven, Sandy, Caroline, and Andrea as your lawful spouses.

    ... Imagine the prenup!

    Sorry too complicated for my blood, but I'm not going to stop others if they want in on that kind of circus.
     
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    it is not like it is a new idea I mean it is in the bible and Mormons practiced it. but it really causes problem with children and support. Hell no man can really satisfy more then one woman anyway hell they are lucky they can satisfy one woman unless they work at it.
     
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    speak for yourself .
     
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    Nothing a Cialis can't take care of.
     
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    right stud muffin you are. if you think you can I think you just fool yourself.
     
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    there is more to it than just performance in the bed when it comes to satisfying women.
     
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    yes thats why I say a man can't do it. it is far more work then sex.
     
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    The government needs to get out of the marriage business. Think about it.

    The government issues you a driver license. You continue to violate the laws and prove over and over that you are an unfit driver. Eventually the courts (the "government") pulls your license.

    The government issues you a contractor license. You rip people off, do shoddy work and pile up a stack of complaints. Eventually the registrar of contractors (the "government") pulls your license.

    The government issues you a business license. You cheat, swindle and fail to pay to the government the taxes that you collect. Eventually the city/county/state (the "government") pulls your license.

    The government issues you a marriage license. You fight, you cheat, you have the cops out every day of your marriage for domestic disputes. The government doesn't give a rip. The government has NEVER pulled a marriage license from anyone for any reason.
     
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    its up to YOU to end YOUR marriage.
     
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    ...something something marry the person you love...
     
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    Totally agree. My point was more to "why is the government even involved in licensing marriage to begin with?" ... I tend to take a more Libertarian view.
     
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    Which is...?
     
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    How would a divorce happen if just one of them wants to split off?
     
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    Why are these "libertarian views" coming out in some people only after same sex is legalized? You ask these questions as if you're completely unaware of the over 1100 rights, protections, and benefits that come along with a civil marriage. If it makes you sleep better at night, you can call it a civil union. Marriage is a legal term for the official on the books registration of two people in a civil contract together for legal purposes. That's all it is. How could the government NOT be involved? That's like saying "why should i have to register my business with the state?"
     
  22. Scepticalscribe, Jul 3, 2015
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    Reading the thread, I am struck by the assumptions that appear to underlie notional support of multiple marriage partners, which is that they take the form of a single male partner and several female partners.

    In any case, in the interests of consistency, I can only assume that those of you who favour the idea of someone being able to marry multiple spouses have no problem with a woman seeking to be simultaneously married to several husbands. (Or gays who may seek simultaneous marriage to multiple partners).

    For those who fail to see the issues with this model of marriage, there are a number of objections which can be put forward: In essence, the objections to it are that the societies which support such practices tend be the most conservative, the most traditional and the most unequal societies that exist.

    These are societies that are unequal economically, they are unequal socially and are unequal culturally. Above all, they are especially unequal with respect to opportunities afforded or allowed to young people (especially young men). And they are also societies that are strikingly traditional and unequal on gender matters (because women are emphatically seen as property, and - as such - are deserving or meriting few to no rights as human beings. Their sole purpose in such circumstances is to serve as someone's wife, as they are seen as property with no autonomy or agency of their own).

    In the western world, the only places where such polygamy were practiced were, of course, the well known unfortunate and rather unattractive example of the Mormons. Other slightly less well remembered examples included some of the more deranged religious cults, which almost always seemed to place a surreal emphasis or stress on the robust nature of divine support for the notion of charismatic patriarchs being permitted sexual access to many young partners and - perhaps - spouses.

    Societies where polygamy is practiced tend to place strict limitations on female emancipation, economic independence and access to education (all reinforced by reference to divine authorities); equally, they tend to construct a social system whereby sexual access to women is confined to - and defined as a right of - older, powerful, men, and they effectively disenfranchise and disempower and exclude young men in addition to disempowering virtually all women.

    Marriage in such societies becomes prohibitively expensive - as only those with extensive assets (access to which, and the right to which, are very strictly controlled) can afford to marry and thus structural inequalities are perpetuated.
     
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    My impression, besides watching some documentaries and Big Love, is that Polygamy is about the group before the individual. You have to hold the importance of the group over your personal desires. And having the husband as Lord and Master keeps it simple. ;) As a female, keep your personal expectations low, keep jealously in check, and be available and grateful when the boss grants you an audience in his bed chamber. :)

    I think our laws would need to updated to address property, inheritance, and custody rights.
     
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    SkepticalScribe, as someone who differs from you a fair bit on political issues and generally on social issues, I respect your usual tone of reason and the thought you put into your posts. Let me get that out before I say the following:

    Just because other groups who practice polygamy do it one way, does not mean it has to be done that way here. Additionally, who are we to tell someone that their choice of marriage arrangement is wrong? Even if things are done as you describe, as long as all parties are willing participants, who's business is it to tell them they can't marry that way?

    I really don't think the government has a leg to stand on anymore in regulating whatever arrangement consenting adults want to make for their marriages.
     

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