What are the odds (That the leaks aren't what we think they are)???

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by tHe Rk, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. tHe Rk macrumors newbie

    Sep 7, 2012
    Long Time Reader/Lurker, first time poster.

    As an apple nut, like most on this board, I've been thinking a lot about the iPhone 5, and in particular what Tim Cook Said about doubling down on security/secrecy. Obviously the amount of leaks ahead of this launch is astronomical. But if they were serious about doubling down, maybe they did, and whats been leaked has been controlled and maybe we really haven't seen the iPhone 5, but instead redesigned 4 and 4S models.

    Hear me out...

    Amongst all the rumors lately, one in particular regarding the iPad Mini / new dock connector got me to thinking. The rumor that I'm referring to is that when they launch the mini they are supposed to be also launching a slightly redesigned iPad with the new dock connector. So along with the Mini, New iPad, New iPhone, and all of the new iPod line, everything will be using the new 9 pin connector...except the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4s.

    So it stands to reason that Apple would want to get its entire product line updated with the new 9 pin since they will likely be selling the iPhone 4 for another year, and the 4S for two more years to maintain their "Good, Better, Best" Product structure. Redesign also makes sense for Apple for another reason, LTE, they probably understand the likelihood of someone wanting a free 4S a year and a half from now, and that without LTE that likelihood will drop by quite a bit, especially with the Cheap android LTE options already saturating that price point today. So to keep with the times, this gives them the opportunity to move to a more modern 4" screen, LTE, and update to their new pin Connector, all in an effort to not only unify their new 9-pin connector but to ensure their good & better options will continue to relevant option in the marketplace.

    This would also explain why all the leaks look more like the 4 and 4s than any of the teardrop and radical redesign rumors that were all floating around last year.

    So if this is the case, maybe the 5 in the invitation is not just a nod to the iPhone 5, but maybe a 5" iPhone. Think about it. The GSIII is 4.8" and currently the #1 smartphone on the market. If anyone can put a 5" screen in a smaller, sleeker, thinner form factor it would be apple. Of course, maybe 5" is a pipe dream, and too big, but even still if its just a nod to iPhone 5, if these are leaks are new 4 and 4s models, they could still go to 4.3 or 4.5 inches on an iPhone 5 model with a radical new design. This could also be the reason NFC is nowhere to be found on the leaked models, as that'd be a feature reserved for passbook and the iPhone 5.

    Especially at a time when the iPhone is no longer the #1 smartphone in the us, this model above would not only shock the tech industry, but also put in place a new plan to not only retake the #1 spot (as its sure it anyway) but to once again dominate the marketplace altogether by offering viable Free and $99 options that boast new screen, LTE, and dock connector.

    What do you think? Just a pipe dream? Realistic chance of happening? Or will the iPhone 5 just be another "Evolutionary" step instead of revolutionary.

    Maybe I just hope it is because I want a bigger screen, NFC, and a compelling reason to keep my iPhone, because if it just turns out to match the leaks, I'm gonna take a hard look at Galaxy SIII and Note II options.
  2. PerplexShyt macrumors 6502

    Sep 1, 2011
    as much as I would love to see a 5inch screen...

    its not going to happen.
    the leaked photos = what we are gonna get.
  3. troop231 macrumors 603

    Jan 20, 2010
  4. mubo macrumors regular

    Feb 29, 2008
    I don't think a 5" screen but maybe the part leaks are from a knock off made from rumours, like this:

    And the real iPhone '5' '6' or 'new' will be something else and Apple have doubled down on secrecy!
    Why would they release a new iPhone 4s with the old dock?
  5. noobinator macrumors 603


    Jun 19, 2009
    Pasadena, CA
    I'd say there is a 99.99999% chance we have seen the iPhone 5 in all the leaks.

    So, what I'm saying is, there is a chance....
  6. PerplexShyt macrumors 6502

    Sep 1, 2011
    these were leaks provided by case manufactuers, based off hoopla that was conjured up by the media frenzy based on speculation based on a dream from a dog

    when we start seeing batteries, cameras, and inner components that further confirm the structure of the iphone that is already in people's hands...then yo pretty much know what you are gonna get
  7. intervenient macrumors 6502a

    Jul 9, 2010
    I'll eat my Mac if the leaks aren't what we get.
  8. Tig Bitties macrumors 68040

    Tig Bitties

    Sep 6, 2012
    Totally agree with OP. The taller but NOT wider iPhone4 design is ridiculous and silly looking, and still has the same overall design theme for a third year in a row. If you are going to make a larger 4" screen, it needs to be both taller AND wider, like the comfortable sized Nexus-S 4" phone. Where is the innovation and magic from Apple ?

    Still hoping these leaks are a major ruse from Apple to fool everyone, and Tim Cook will unveil a brand new fresh design no one has seen yet.

    There were some really cool concepts last year before the iPhone 4S came out, would love the iPhone5 to be one of these, and not this taller iPhone4.
  9. R1PPER macrumors 6502

    Oct 1, 2008
    if it looks like an iphone.....smells like an iphone.....tastes like an iphone....then it might just, probably, be an iphone.
  10. AlphaHumanus macrumors 6502a

    Feb 12, 2012
    I believe in all earnest that what we've seen is what we'll get. But after that statement, I'm hoping to the gods that they surprise us. I'd pay to see someone eat a Mac.

    And before it's said, Big Macs don't count.
  11. ET iPhone Home macrumors 68040

    ET iPhone Home

    Oct 5, 2011
    Orange County, California USA
    I still think and hope it will be completely different from these leaks, but no matter what, will sill look nice.

    I agree with (OP) the double secrecy thing. There are too many of the same similar leaks for this to be the 5. Like someone posted in another thread, it may be to throw us off.
  12. SR45 macrumors 65832


    Aug 17, 2011
    "So if this is the case, maybe the 5 in the invitation is not just a nod to the iPhone 5, but maybe a 5" iPhone. Think about it."

    Ya, right ! Apple would never, ever jump from 3.5 inch screen to a 5 incher. Period.

    I'm glad all the shown iPhone 5 designs, are 4 inch, and not wider. Dislike wider phones for the lack of comfort, holding one with one hand. :eek:

    Thank goodness, Apple will not jump on the fanatic bandwagon that want wider phones, and continue with a more mature looking, solid material smartphone.

    All others may leave and find the right Android phone. Not hard to find, and they are available now....:D
  13. Omacc macrumors member

    Sep 7, 2012
    IF these are the actually product leaks and seem to be true then i don't really no if my faith level for appl and tim will be the same . It would tell me that apple doesn't have their **** together.. as far as security.
  14. Anti-Lucifer macrumors 6502a

    Mar 9, 2012
    Apple is notorious for lagging in latest and greatest hardware. You just watch and see how many millions they sell in 1 day. It will be phenomenal but you can bet on the iphone 5 being low tech compared to android and even windows phone offerings (lumina 920).

    Look at the new interview today regarding the 920 Lumina - floating lens optical stabilizer. Amazing how nokia is able to come back from the dead.

    I will still buy an iPhone 5 depending on the real specs shown 9/12 but I dont' think you're gonna see 5" screen on any iPhone near or long term. I want a larger screen but I also want apple's ecosystem. Those who threaten to leave the iPhone 5 for a SG3, XX phone, etc., those are the ones who care about display more than anything else.

    Apple is all about money making these days - it's pathetic and they trickle update their hardware specs and when they give you something that is a year old in tech world, they act like they are doing you a big favor.

    On the contrary, if the iPhone 5 has the same processor found in the 4S, I'm NOT going to buy it. They're gonna need some substantial difference from the 4S in order for me to buy it.
  15. MJD Dawg macrumors 6502

    Apr 27, 2009
    Junction of the Pacific, Juan de Fuca & NA Plates
    Like any corporation, they've always been about making money. But I know what you're saying.

    One of the main things that attracted me to Apple in the first place was what I thought was their spirit of innovation. Whatever the reason, that spirit seems to be long gone now. It's almost as if they've mailed it in with the long-phone 5. I don't want to hear how the phone is thinner, how it's now widescreen, how the CPU/GPU have been over-clocked...and on and on and on. These are expected of any next generation phone. Give me something daring and unexpected to remind me of why I fell in love with Apple in the first place.
  16. Tig Bitties macrumors 68040

    Tig Bitties

    Sep 6, 2012
    Amen :)
  17. vastoholic macrumors 68000


    Jan 28, 2009
    Tulsa, OK
  18. rushluvr macrumors member

    Sep 4, 2012
    I would LOVE a 5 inch iphone but it will never happen. All the teenage girls and soccer moms would complain.
  19. Risco macrumors 68000


    Jul 22, 2010
    United Kingdom
    It would be the mother of all cover ups if it turned out all the leaks were fake. Alas history has taught us that this only happens when Apple release a product in to a new market. Examples would be the first iPhone.
  20. cyks macrumors 68020


    Jul 24, 2002
    Westchester County, NY
    As I posted in a similar thread...

    How many iPhone 5s were found in bars or seen in the world?

    I'm sure he meant it and I'm sure security has been heavily increased, but there's very little he can do about employees at companies across the world and outside his control leaking parts... especially when said part could mean a year's salary to that person.

    The things that are within Cook's control (testing, R&D, software, and the finished products) have all been kept extremely well under wraps.

    Basically, Cook and company can threaten all they want, but they are relatively powerless when it comes to China and, while there have been numerous leaks, nobody has seen a finished product or (for all intents) knows anything about it other than what it looks like.
  21. takeshi74 macrumors 601

    Feb 9, 2011
    Dead horse already beaten by countless identical prior threads. Not that it won't stop many many more until 9/12.
  22. jaysen macrumors 6502

    Sep 16, 2009
    I'm gonna go start another thread, in 3, 2, 1...
  23. mantan macrumors 68000

    Nov 2, 2009
    This may be the best post I've ever read on this board.....Bravo!
  24. ixodes macrumors 601


    Jan 11, 2012
    Pacific Coast, USA
    Just for fun I called the guy at the Casino I frequent in Las Vegas, he does a great job with all my sports bets.

    When I asked about the iPhone he chuckled. Apparently I'm not the first to ask.

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