what are the symptoms of prostrate and testicular cancer ?

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  1. ceezy3000 macrumors 6502

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    im very worried, i know this sounds weird but my penis has been looking weird for a while. i've also been pissing a lot and it takes a while for the pee to come out. like ill literally be standing in the urinal for about a minute. is this something else. i know this may seem weird but if ur worried about ur life u'll ask anything. can u also describe what to look for when inspecting ur self.\

    thanks and please dont turn this into a joke,
     
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  3. Jack Flash macrumors 65816

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    Book an appointment with your doctor but know that at age 17 the chances of you having cancer, let alone prostate or testicular cancer as extremely minimal.
     
  4. ceezy3000 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    thanks, ive already scheduled an appointment 4 da first week of april

    yea but i also have addisons disease which is really rare so im not taking my chances.
     
  5. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    I don't know about the symptoms of testicular cancer, but there aren't any symptoms for prostate cancer until it's well-developed. It does take around 20-30 years to kill you, after all. If you're having trouble peeing, it would be due to a completely different issue.

    I'm not 100% sure about testicular cancer, but I don't believe there's any obvious early symptoms either. There would be a small lump on one of your testicles, so that's why they tell you to self-examine. Since there are no symptoms, or no obvious ones, checking for a lump is really the only way to be sure that there is one, since it's physical evidence. It can appear in younger men, even those who are in their 20s. I think it's actually the most common cancer for males age 20-30. There aren't too many others for this age group.


    You can't self-examine your prostate for prostate cancer. You need to get a PSA test, and if it's between 2 and 4 ng/ml, they may keep you under closer observation, meaning they'll pay particular attention to your next PSA concentration value (and the one after that) to see whether it's increasing over the next little while. If it has increased in 12 months, and again later, then they'll do the Digital Rectal Exam (DRE) (or old "finger up the bum" test) to feel for it, and then do a biopsy. They usually don't do it until your PSA is > 4 ng/ml, but who knows. The biopsy involves checking the cells from several random parts of your prostate to check the grade and stage of the tumour (if there is one). The "Grade" refers to your Gleason score, which ranges from 2 to 10, and is an indication to the oncologist/urologist of how far developed the tumour cells have progressed (they check the shape of the cells), while "Stage" refers to how large the overall tumour is. It's usually judged by the TNM staging system, but can be assessed using the ABCD system (which isn't as common, as far as I know).

    Chances are, if you have prostate cancer at such a young age (nearly impossible, but not entirely....), you'll have a PSA of around 5 ng/ml, a Gleason Score of 4 or 5, and a TNM Stage of a T1c at your age. This means you're likely low risk.


    The risk of getting prostate cancer are low for men under 50 years of age, and VERY low (i.e., approaching 0%) for men under 35. Also, at an early stage, you wouldn't have trouble peeing. ;) I seriously doubt you'd have prostate cancer.


    I really don't think you have either cancer due to the symptoms you described, but please go check with a doctor!!!! Perhaps you have a urinary infection or something.
     
  6. yojitani macrumors 68000

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    testicular cancer is unlikely to affect urination. it also wouldn't make your penis look funny (it's in the testes).

    see a doctor, absolutely, and don't listen to people on message boards, but a reassurance there could be many other, much less frightening, causes. have you been experiencing a lot of stress? umm.. being too vigorous? in your position and at your age i would probably be thinking about lifestyle changes...
     
  7. A Mac Gamer macrumors member

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    I was diagnosed recently with testicular cancer. I didn't have any problems urinating or changes in the appearance of my penis or anything like that. The main tip off was pain that occurred off and on in my testicle, I also had a lump that could be felt. After a couple weeks and it not going away, I went to the doctor, had an ultrasound and confirmed the lump.

    As for prostate cancer I do not know much about that cancer. But if it doesn't improve shortly, it wouldn't hurt to see your doctor about it.
     
  8. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    If you are taking drugs, some of them have the effect of swollen prostate. Which means you are going to feel like you constantly have a full bladder.

    But if you are having swollen penis, then it could be something a doctor should check out. Since if you aren't circumcised yet, you may have caught an infection. I had a classmate in college that had that happen at 20 and ended up walking funny after taking drugs and having an adult circumcision.
     
  9. Abstract macrumors Penryn

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    Out of curiosity, how frequent did you feel it in your testicles? I get a strange discomfort sometimes for no reason, but that happens every 2-3 months, not every week or something. It'll last for 30 minutes or an hour, and then won't come back for awhile. It's not really pain, but rather a slight discomfort, like a feeling that isn't there normally.

    I'm too big a wuss to grab my balls too hard, so I've never really checked. Also, I don't really know what I'm looking for, nor do I know how obvious a lump would be if it was there.

    I've self-examined myself like 5 times in my life, and I really didn't think I was doing it right, or that I had enough knowledge of that area to find any strange lumps. Yes, it's lumpy down there I guess, but those could just be normal tubes and such. :rolleyes:
     
  10. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    At seventeen your risk of prostate cancer is pretty low.
     
  11. marbles macrumors 68000

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    Start drinking some pure cranberry [helps with Urinary infections] juice & teas Make sure you see that Dr without delay!.

    hope its the beginning of the week, not to alarm you but the sooner the better is the best policy,.......tiz just I left something one time and it turned out not good.
     
  12. A Mac Gamer macrumors member

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    I felt the pain off and on, not necessarily everyday, but a few times a week. I didn't really check my self until I felt pain, and I could feel the lump pretty easily. As for how to do it, I would just gently feel around each testicle and compare the two, they should feel "bumpy" in the same places on each testicle. A cancerous lump is almost always felt on only one testicle.

    You could also have your doctor check you out, then you know what is normal, and where everything is.
     
  13. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    obviously see a doctor.....prostate infection is one possibility; it'll cause the prostate to swell and pissing becomes difficult. It can be treated with antibiotics
     
  14. Fiveos22 macrumors 65816

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    There's not much to a male genital exam; the main thing is being able to recognize what's normal and what's not. From a physician's perspecive, you have to know the anatomy and have done enough to have a good baseline of what "normal" is. From your perspective, you need to know yourself...and thus be able to identify any changes that develop (lumps, bumps, tenderness, whatever).

    The male genital exam is quite straight forward:

    Start with a visual inspection of the surrounding area, pubic hair, looking discoloration, ulceration, lice. This includes pusing the scrotum out of the way to inspect all the way between the legs. If you are doing this on someone else, I highly recommend brushing upwards, i.e. towards the head, while examining the pubic hair (it is typically more springy than other body hair and you don't want to go flinging things into your face by stroking downward).

    Next examine the shaft of the penis, again looking for discoloration, ulceration, ?trauma, urethral openings that are out of place (i.e. hypospadias). Be sure to visualize both the dorsal and the ventral surfaces. If uncircumcised, then reduce the foreskin and inspect the glans looking for any smegma. Gently squeeze the urethral meatus by pinching from top to bottom to see if any pus/purulent exudate can be expressed.

    The testicles are examined both at the same time (one hand for each) to compare symmetry. They should be more or less olive shaped and sized, generally smooth to the touch however some fine nodularity can be appreciated. The testicle is, surprisingly not nearly as sensitive as one would think. The epididymis which feels like a small knob and tube is located somewhat posteriorly directly attached to the testicle, it is exceptionally sensitive, and care must be taken when palpating. You can also examine the spermatic cord and its structures as it ascends superiorly and then laterally as it enters the inguinal canal. Occasionally the venous plexus that drains the testicle can be felt, and feels like a bag of worms.

    After this is the inguinal canal examination, more commonly known as the "turn and cough" part of the exam, wherein a finger is inserted into the canal via the external ring. If you feel your pubic symphisis, the joining of your right and left pelvic bones located immediately above the penis, the spermatic cord can be felt diving into the abdomen immediately lateral to the symphisis. Taking a good amount of scrotal tissue, you can quite easily insert your finger into the canal. Then, turning and coughing you can assess if an inguinal hernia is present.

    The last part of the exam is a the digital rectal exam...which is fairly self explanatory. Just remember to use a lot of lube, put the pad of your finger on the anus, have the patient relax by taking slow deep breaths. Then, while inhaling, you can apply some pressure and, I don't mean to sound glib, but the anus whill often just suck your finger in. Its an uncomfortable exam, so there is no need to make it more uncomfortable by being too forceful. Then just sweep your finger around the rectal vault 360 degrees, noting any polypoid nodules, enlarged hemorrhoids. In the male exam you can also feel anteriorly (towards the penis) and feel a small walnut sized prostate that should be the consistency of the tip of your nose. On either side you may also be able to feel the two seminal vesicles extending like two butterfly wings laterally.

    Ta da. All done. I wouldn't recommend doing this whole to yourself, but I just wanted you to know what doctors are being trained to do. And like I said at the beginning, it just takes experience.
     
  15. Sun Baked macrumors G5

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    Maybe simply pulled a Drew Carey and fractured/sprained his penis -- swollen badly and in need of surgery, aka, stabbing with a big needle and hooking up to vacuum pump.
     
  16. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    It might, if he has fat fingers.

    Sorry, but Yellow took my HELLO from the other MR Clinic™ request. :eek:

    A doctor is the only action indicated. You won't find your answer here.
     
  17. kastenbrust macrumors 68030

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    1) Trouble peeing can be a sign of drinking too much caffeine and artificial dehydration. ER departments see this a lot in people who have drunk too much coffee, its the most common cause of trouble peeing.

    2) Kidney infection

    3) STI, Herpes, Chlamydia (you dont have to have sex to get herpes)

    4) Psychological condition
     
  18. Melrose macrumors 604

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    I get that also - it's become less frequent as I've gotten older, but actually was a bit of mild worry. I'm glad to hear someone has the same thing.

    ...and contrary to supposedly supposed to check every time one has a shower, I don't. They say that if you check regularly, you get to know what they feel like and therefore can tell if anything's out of the ordinary.

    Fiveoss22 in re the exam: Thx. I've always wondered exactly what the Dr was feeling for with the 'cough' test.. My poor layman's brain didn't really understand the point of it.
     
  19. drewsof07 macrumors 68000

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    Actually Testicular cancer is becoming much more common among 17-25 year olds. Prostate cancer typically occurs in those over age 45

    OP, you could be experiencing a symptom of your addison's. I'm sure you know this already, but addison's messes with your hormones. Aldosterone is one hormone that controls the way your body uses its fluids & electrolytes. If that balance is tipped one direction or another, it could easily cause urinary retention or polyuria (frequent urination). This might account for your frequent urination, however I'm confused on what you mean by "my penis has been looking weird"
    Is it swollen? turning colors, or what?

    Obviously I encourage you to see your doc, especially since you have a pre-existing condition.

    Good luck! Hopefully you'll be on the road to genito-urinary normalcy soon! :D
     

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