What do people think about Xioami blatanty ripping off Apple designs?

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by markusbeutel, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. markusbeutel macrumors regular

    Sep 26, 2014
  2. MacDawg macrumors Core


    Mar 20, 2004
    "Between the Hedges"
    I think it is an issue for Apple legal to address
    And has nothing to do with me, I couldn't care less :)
  3. jamezr macrumors G4


    Aug 7, 2011
    I wonder why Apple does not go after them in court? These are blatant copies. Even more than they have accused any other company. So Why not go after them? The reason is the bad press is would generate in China! China is the biggest growing market right now.
  4. mrex macrumors 68030


    Jul 16, 2014
    deep black looks cool! much better than snowwhite...
  5. jamezr macrumors G4


    Aug 7, 2011
    That black does look awesome......maybe Apple could copy that? I would rather have that deep black than the space gray on my IP6.
  6. Oohara macrumors 68020


    Jun 28, 2012
    The "one more thing" keynote ripoff is the most ridiculous IMO. So pathetic it's actually funny :D

    Yeah it'll be interesting how see what Apple does about this. I mean, when it comes to copying this really puts any accusations towards Samsung in perspective... And like jamezr says, the risk of creating bad publicity in China certainly complicates things.
  7. Zaft macrumors 68040


    Jun 16, 2009
    Brooklyn, NY
  8. chabig macrumors 601

    Sep 6, 2002
    Xioami doesn't do business in the US and doesn't have a US presence.
  9. jamezr macrumors G4


    Aug 7, 2011

    Correct. But they could still take them to court in their own country. They could still seek import bans in the country's they have patents.
  10. twintin macrumors 6502

    Aug 10, 2012
    The chances a chinese court goes against one of its own companies to favour a foreign company is slim to none. Apple has already tried that regardin the name iPad and gain nothing.

    However, Xioami may have hard time to do the same trick in e.g. US or Western Europe, so I think for the time being they will stick selling their phones within present regions for that reason.
  11. jamezr macrumors G4


    Aug 7, 2011
    They had a hard time with Samsung but that did not stop them. Right now you can import Xiaomi phones into the US. Amazon is one site....why not seek an import ban for the countries that support US patents or have patents in those countries? They did this with Samsung.....
  12. Lloydbm41 macrumors 68040


    Oct 17, 2013
    Central California
  13. twintin macrumors 6502

    Aug 10, 2012
    Got you. Misunderstood your first post. The difference is however that Samsung actively promote their phones in US. Xioami don't (Amazon selling them is more like a gray import, not sure how easy it is to ban them).
  14. Switchback666 macrumors 68000


    Nov 16, 2012
    Damm that mini router looks great, i couldn't care less if they copy honestly they look great and better than a lot of the top OEM.
  15. Technarchy macrumors 604


    May 21, 2012
    Don't care. Never buying one of their products no matter how much they wrap it in Apple veneer.
  16. kevinof macrumors 6502a

    Jul 30, 2008
  17. ecrispy macrumors regular

    Oct 27, 2013
    ^ is right.

    Apple should be the last company to accuse someone of stealing ideas.

    Apple steals Android features like notification center, quick controls etc, and patent ridiculous things like slide to unlock and black rectangles.
  18. miketheappleguy macrumors regular

    May 18, 2014
    To be honest. After reading it and looking at the pictures. I think it's HILARIOUS. It's almost like an alternate universe where apple wasn't called apple but was called Xioami instead. Yet everything else is the same.
  19. spinedoc77 macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2009
    I think Jobs would secretly be proud of them. Wasn't he shameless about stealing as well?

    Besides who really cares? Why do people take this stuff personally, getting on here and screaming bloody murder. It's comical if it wasn't so deeply sad. Go enjoy your phone.
  20. ilovewasabi macrumors member

    Feb 3, 2013

    You probably don't understand Picasso's meaning of 'steal.' To give you an idea, the first Macintosh, iPhone and iPad were stolen. What Xiaomi did here was not stealing at all; it was more like copying.
  21. Savor Suspended


    Jun 18, 2010
    I'm pretty objective for all companies.

    My dislike with Xiaomi is WHY SO MUCH APPLE ENVY? It doesn't just start with the Mi 4 design. It ranges across many of their products and Lei Jun's Steve Jobs-like presentations. Design-wise, I don't consider Xiaomi as good as Asus, Huawei, and Oppo. Still, Apple's design has become redundant too. I don't think iOS7 ever looked great to me. What some say MINIMALIST and BEAUTIFUL for Apple design, I say REHASHED, BLAND, OR UNINSPIRING with very little changes over the years. What surprised me is from Mi 1 to Mi 3, they didn't look like Apple iPhones. So why copy something that has become almost redundant to begin with?

    In defense to software (MIUI 6 looking alot like iO7), MIUI has been around since 2010 with 60M users. While both might look the same visually with icons having rounded corners , what really separates MIUI vs iOS is the former's endless customization. I used to jailbreak iPhone OS back in 1.1.4. I used Customize and everything. MIUI can go deeper even changing your boot animation if you please. I generally do use the Nova Prime launcher to keep it simple and the gesture swipes. But I can still change up my lockscreen, messaging theme, notification panel, dialer, and so on while using Nova as my launcher. And the Security app and other custom tweaks are excellent. I can prevent wakelocks just by picking which apps NOT to auto-start.

    MIUI can be overwhelming for newbies and occasionally buggy. And some things are written in Chinese which might turn off Westerners. But it can only look like iOS on surface with Android's freedom. Its flexibility runs much deeper than the drab, always looks the same iOS homescreens where background wallpaper and apps might be your only differentiator from another iOS user. If I wanted Xperia lockscreen, I can get it with MIUI. If I wanted a Sense theme, I can get that. MIUI doesn't get tiring as fast like stock iOS does.
  22. fredaroony macrumors 6502a

    Aug 1, 2011
    I could care less too, Apple have ripped off others as well.
  23. Savor Suspended


    Jun 18, 2010
    My MIUI 5 (Build 15) Experience
    (After Three Months)

    Theme components

    Lockscreen: Silence - Shows the Empire State Building in my fav city. Used the Xperia lockscreen but Silence shows batt % and weather but with some Mandarin writing and Celsius over Fahrenheit.

    Messaging: Dewy V5
    Not 100% satisfied with it but it will do.

    Status Bar: Mi Bunny
    Very popular choice for status bars. Mitu Bunny could also be seen sweeping a broom if you want to close apps.

    Likes -

    Battery optimizations - I still have the Battery Saving option which was removed after Build 18. Conserve keeps the temperature cooler (peaks at 108 F) as the CPU is throttled at below 1.1 GHz. I only use it when gaming or overnight for better standby time but no real difference in screen on time if set on Balance or High Performance. I use the latter because I want it the fastest and don't like seeing thumbnail redraws in QuickPic.

    Security app - Can ask permission, autostart, clean cache, blocklist, warn of suspicious sites or apps, and scans/kills viruses.

    Themes app - Endless customizations. I only changed three as seen as above. Dream Adventure theme isn't beautiful and more for kids, but some icons can be animated and not just static. But I use Nova Prime, simple black wallpaper (reminds me of the old iPhone days) , and a MIUIv5 icons pack.

    Hidden private messaging section with its own security lock patterns and can turn off its notifications. If you have a very jealous gf or wife that enjoys reading your texts or you're a despicable two-timer, this feature is right for you.

    MIUI FM Radio - Can play 95.5 & 97.1 frequency for me without a headset attached and FM radio doesn't need mobile data/Wi-Fi or kill battery as fast like online radio apps.

    Music app - It's no Apple iPod/Music app, WP Zune, or Sony Walkman app, but it is much better than Google's and most other default music player apps. You can edit the song information or DELETE a song which is something iOS' Music app still CAN'T do.

    Ability to wake screen using volume buttons. It's no double tap wake like LG, HTC, Sony, and Oppo/OnePlus, but it is better than using just one button to wake it. And offered by default with no need to root.

    Swiping up on Notes or Music can open a miniaturized window although I don't use it because I don't use MIUI as the default launcher.

    Do Not Disturb option.

    Ability to assign the buttons on your headphones.

    Ability to turn off the capacitive button lights for a cleaner and sleeker look.

    Screenshot, Power, and Reboot are options on the notification panel. No need to wear out physical buttons.

    Glove mode for extra sensitivity and option to prevent accidental dials in pocket.

    Lite mode where homescreen is simplified with giant icons.

    MIUI gets updated every week but major ones do happen every few months. I still haven't updated to MIUI 5 Build 32 because I will lose the Battery Saving mode and cool TV screen off animation. I'm really waiting for the MIUI 6 OTA update.

    Custom ROM is found online. Easy to root and difficult to brick your phone.

    MIUI have 70M users, is 4-years old, and community based. As Mi phones get OLDER, they have the benefit to become FASTER which is opposite on iOS. MIUI is well optimized on every kernel. Hugo Barra has a team of developers to scour forums and search for problems to eliminate those issues.

    Is MIUI perfect? Of course not. Nothing is.

    Dislikes -

    High RAM usage. I'm on KitKat 4.4.2 and it always end up using about 75% of RAM during the day. After a reboot clears it to only 45% usage but it rises back to 75% by the end of the day. Rebooting every night before charging it again is almost necessary. Luckily boot up is under 30 seconds and isn't like 2+ minutes like old BlackBerry OS5 and webOS

    Occasionally buggy with force closes on the Settings app. Doesn't happen as much anymore. Turned off force-closed notifications under Developer's Option.

    Some are written in Chinese.

    Speaker is low but text don't always wake the screen or make any sound so I miss alot of calls and texts.

    If switching to different battery modes, I have to schedule it. Can't simply press apply. And sometimes if I do schedule it (11pm-6am/sleep mode), it doesn't always work. CPU throttle from high to conserve modes can be tricky. I just keep the mode on HIGH while manually put it on airplane mode overnight.

    Selfie cam doesn't reverse the photo so shirts with words will be backwards although this was remedied in Build 32.

    MIUI was never really quick but I heard MIUI 6 remedied it by matching Cyanogen Mod 11s quickness.

    No video trimming feature which I liked from HTC's Gallery app. I trim alot of videos for Viber which has a 10MB/3 min limit.

    I didn't even list MIUI 6 features since it hasn't arrived officially for me yet or Android's flexibility or OEM advantages where the likes list can grow even longer. With iOS, you have to jailbreak it to match some of MIUI and Android's practical features. And when you update your firmware, you lose it and have to jailbreak again. Ripping off the look is a superficial thing. I was never a fan of a flat look that everyone is doing right now. It was done better on WP.

    You need to look beyond the surface to realize this Chinese custom ROM can be far more practical and robust than iOS. And Xiaomi's real innovation isn't copying Apple's hardware and software design but their gamechanging business model using break-even costs which disrupted the market. And they become #1 in China after four years with barely any marketing, zero retail stores, and blind buy purchasing from online flash sales.

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