What do you hate about Hillary?

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  1. stevento macrumors 6502

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    republicans please answer
    i have a suspicion that women taking charge in politics makes people uncomfortable
     
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    It might be easier to ask what one likes about Hillary. ;)
     
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    Arrogant.

    Never had a real job.

    Socialist.

    No real beliefs (maybe to see herself in power, socialist), just waffles for the crowd.
     
  5. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    She's insincere and arrogant.

    Saw this on Digg today. A street sign making jokes. One of them was "Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife is running for president." lulz
     
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    every time she talks it sounds at though she is yelling at you, in a almost scolding manor. she needs to learn to give a speech with out it sounding like she is mad and yelling at her audience
     
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    Hillary's Looming Electability Crisis

    Huffington

    I don't read the Huffington Post but I saw this on Digg.

    Obama brings people together, Hillary divides.
     
  8. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    The things I don't like about her are, She seems to me to be more power-hungry than most politicians, I don't beleive much of what she says, and the other reason why I won't vote for her is that I don't want 2 families controlling the White house from 1989 to 2012 or 2016.
     
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    Considering that she's pretty much been stage-front for sixteen years, it's not hard to come to some conclusions about her.

    She comes across as rather arrogant as to the validity of her judgements. She seems hungry for political power for its own sake, for her own personal satisfaction and use.

    She's too often reported to be arrogant toward the "little people" around her in governmental jobs. That's despicable behavior--and among other things indicates how she looks at outsiders from the public at large.

    She appears ignorant of Economics 101, or else just doesn't care.

    Her apparent political opinions vary with polls. She doesn't appear to have any consistent political philosophy, other than more government is a good thing; more governmental power over the citizenry is a good thing.

    I don't hate her, but I have serious concern for the good of the nation should she become President.

    'Rat
     
  10. Hello.there macrumors 6502a

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    :eek:

    :D

    Sorry.

    It's just a constant source of amusement to me how US right wingers define the term 'Socialist'. The noise you hear is Karl Marx spinning in his grave. If Hillary's a Socialist I'm a native of Jupiter.
     
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    With that in mind read these quotes from Hillary. And that's just what she says in public.

    I want to take those profits away and use them.. blah blah blah

    So that why some people call her a socialist. Is there some basic premise that everyone is missing?
     
  12. miloblithe macrumors 68020

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    How so?
     
  13. zap2 macrumors 604

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    Yea, my brother would agree with you.


    But honestly, she is a very arrogant person. She rubs me the wrong way, when she explains things, and it comes off very badly. And her policies don't do enough. She also say "I don't want to be judge based off my husband, for good or bad" Then goes "But Bill raised the economy, cut the deficit and more! Vote for me, because I'm like him" Pick one, please!

    Obama is the opposite....he can make almost anything sounds great! And his stance on the issues are great!


    Also she talks about how he is going to bring about change, and then goes "Hey, I've been in Washington for 35 years!" Really change has to come from outside!
     
  14. zap2 macrumors 604

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    Using that idea, then anyone who supports taxes to pay for public anything is a socialist...get real!
     
  15. stevento thread starter macrumors 6502

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    yeah she might mess around and balance the budget or something.

    as for arrogance i see what you are talking about but if that same level or arrogance came from a man i bet it'd be less of a big deal. if a man acted like that they'd call him a strong leader

    hillary was not a laura bush type first lady. she didn't just pose for pictures and smile and wave to the crowds and that probably makes people uncomfortable because it goes against what they think of women
    i think her policies are better than obamas (excluding foriegn policy, i like his more)
    and what makes you think obama will be capable of uniting the country and changing washington?
    we've heard that in every election for 4 decades and washington is the way washington is.
    likely because politicians are the way they are.
     
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    I think this is much larger than just taxation. This is wealth redistribution and government control of major industries. "taking profits" is just a little different than taxing don't you think?
     
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    So what do you call not taxing the wealthy and major industrial control of government?
     
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    She's a two faced sycophant. She will say two totally opposite things depending on the audience she's talking to and what she thinks they want to hear. She's just a poll response prostitute, selling out her words to whatever demographic she's talking to at the moment. Most politicians do this to varying degrees, but she takes it to a new low.

    She needs to stop double talking. Make a clear statement about your position on an issue, then stick with it. Don't use wishy washy words that you can later say meant two different things, depending on the audience you're explaining to about what your speech meant.

    If the democrats put Hillary as their candidate, then they're gonna lose. (assuming that the election isn't rigged)

    You wanna know why I'm so sure about that? Because I REALLY don't want another republican in the white house this time, and especially not most of the current republican front runners, but even I wouldn't be willing to vote for Hillary. I'm usually a rather party-agnostic voter, but I'll vote for an unlikely to win 3rd party candidate and by proxy allow a person like McCain to be president before I'll vote for Hillary.

    Hillary - the candidate for the status quo. Only worse.
     
  19. obeygiant macrumors 68040

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    I don't know. There is no such thing as no taxes. As far as I know the wealthy are taxed just people debate on how much. In terms of industrial control of government, that exists no matter who is in office.

    However this is departure from the original discussion of what you don't like about Hillary. Some people think she's a socialist and they view that as a bad thing.
     
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    I see your point, but I don't think Clinton wants to "take profits" but rather wants to remove the tax breaks and subsidies that the oil companies have been enjoying. And this is a reasonable point. Corporate tax breaks should happen only to further national priorities, but once a sector is doing well enough to announce record profits, it's time for that incentive to end. Ultimately, this would "take profits," but in a reasonable fashion that has nothing to do with socialism.

    People are far too ready to call Clinton a socialist, so they'll look for any excuse to call her one.
     
  21. Prof. macrumors 601

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    I don't hate anything about Hillary. Believe it or not, we need her to be president; and the way it's going, she will be president.

    Clinton/Obama:D
     
  22. motulist macrumors 601

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    We need her to be president instead of the other democratic contenders because...?
     
  23. Prof. macrumors 601

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    I don't want to get into it cause it's 1am here in chicago but... we need her cause she is married to Bill. Bill and Hillary will fix the economy, get the US involved with the environment and yada yada yada. *sigh*

    This will sound strange but you gotta trust me on this, we need Hillary and Bill in the White House again.

    don't bash me
     
  24. Krafty macrumors 601

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    If she becomes president, a whole bunch of people including me, are committing suicide.
     
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    Have fun doing it:p
     

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