What do you make of this?

dsharits

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I have a "friend" who I have been talking to for a few months now, and tonight things started to get a little shady. I have a few friends in faraway countries that I talk to regularly, and she didn't seem out of the ordinary until tonight. I was talking to her on Yahoo, and she started telling me that she lives in Nigeria, and she sells laptops and phones. She went on to tell me that she was robbed a while ago, and she now gets paid in money orders instead of cash. The longer this conversation went on, the more I kept thnking about the infamous Nigerian scams that come in e-mail from time to time. Below is a copy of part of the log from our conversation tonight. I played along like any other average dumb-person-that-would-fall-for-a-stupid-scam, just so I could see where this went. I don't know where to go with this, so I am calling out to my wise neighbors of MacRumors for your input. Here's the transcript in two parts, since the post is limite to 10,000 characters. (I'm bucsnboltsfan, BTW):

7:17:45 PM jennywill4real: i deal with americans here
7:17:50 PM bucsnboltsfan: cool
7:18:01 PM jennywill4real: can i really trust you
7:18:09 PM bucsnboltsfan: absolutely
7:18:51 PM jennywill4real: i sell laptops and phones
7:19:02 PM bucsnboltsfan: nice, is it fun?
7:19:26 PM jennywill4real: i make cool cash selling it to your fellow countrymen
7:19:51 PM bucsnboltsfan: that's awesome
7:21:36 PM jennywill4real: business is good here
7:21:56 PM jennywill4real: once you gat the right source
7:22:06 PM bucsnboltsfan: I believe it. That kind of stuff sells really well here
7:22:28 PM jennywill4real: i gat robbed recently
7:22:46 PM jennywill4real: Nigeria is a really hard place to live
7:22:56 PM bucsnboltsfan: ohh, not good, what happened?
7:23:14 PM jennywill4real: the economy is bad,high rate of crime and all dat
7:23:40 PM bucsnboltsfan: sounds like a scary thing
7:23:51 PM jennywill4real: i was going home after collecting my money from a client
7:24:19 PM jennywill4real: it safe with GOD,dont be scared
7:24:26 PM bucsnboltsfan: oh yes
7:24:38 PM bucsnboltsfan: God always protects us
7:24:43 PM jennywill4real: i believe in God
7:24:48 PM bucsnboltsfan: me too
7:24:58 PM jennywill4real: and i known he wld neva let me down
7:25:05 PM bucsnboltsfan: never
7:25:22 PM bucsnboltsfan: he's always there to take care of us
7:25:37 PM jennywill4real: yep
7:25:53 PM jennywill4real: what do u know about my country
7:26:05 PM bucsnboltsfan: I don't know much about it
7:26:26 PM jennywill4real: i know a lot about america
7:26:32 PM bucsnboltsfan: cool
7:26:37 PM jennywill4real: i would really love to visit
7:26:44 PM bucsnboltsfan: it's great here
7:26:49 PM bucsnboltsfan: you would like it
7:27:09 PM bucsnboltsfan: I have to go eat dinner, but i'll be back in a few minutes, ok?
7:27:11 PM jennywill4real: maybe after saving a lot,cos its quite expensive
7:27:25 PM jennywill4real: ow long wld u take
7:27:48 PM bucsnboltsfan: I should be back within a half hour
7:28:02 PM bucsnboltsfan: probably closer to 20 minutes
7:28:17 PM jennywill4real: are u going to restaurant or where
7:28:41 PM bucsnboltsfan: no, just the kitchen, my mom has dinner ready
7:28:56 PM jennywill4real: u stay with ur mom
7:28:58 PM jennywill4real: ?
7:29:12 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep, both of my parents
7:29:12 PM jennywill4real: ow old are u,sorry 2 ask
7:29:16 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'm 19
7:29:31 PM jennywill4real: u young
7:29:37 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
7:29:49 PM jennywill4real: ow many are u
7:30:07 PM bucsnboltsfan: what do you mean?
7:30:22 PM jennywill4real: u gat siblings?
7:30:34 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes, I have one brother and one sister
7:30:41 PM bucsnboltsfan: both younger than me
7:30:48 PM jennywill4real: are u d first
7:30:51 PM jennywill4real: k
7:30:52 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
7:31:03 PM jennywill4real: u gat ur own room
7:31:10 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes I do
7:31:19 PM jennywill4real: are u there now
7:31:25 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
7:31:32 PM bucsnboltsfan: that's where I am
7:31:36 PM bucsnboltsfan:
7:31:38 PM jennywill4real: so u are alone right
7:31:43 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes
7:32:06 PM jennywill4real: u still in skool
7:32:34 PM bucsnboltsfan: I just graduated last month, but I'm going to college now
7:32:41 PM jennywill4real: k
7:32:58 PM jennywill4real: i need someone i can trust
7:33:05 PM bucsnboltsfan: you can trust me
7:33:13 PM jennywill4real: i dont know if u cld be the one
7:33:34 PM bucsnboltsfan: maybe
7:33:53 PM jennywill4real: u see,after i got robbed,in now get paid in money orders
7:34:22 PM jennywill4real: d problem is cashing it?
7:34:44 PM bucsnboltsfan: because US money orders are no good over there?
7:35:02 PM jennywill4real: ow do u know
7:35:08 PM bucsnboltsfan: just a guess
7:35:22 PM bucsnboltsfan: that would probably be the problem with cashing it
7:35:57 PM jennywill4real: i am wondering if u cld cash it 4 me,maybe i give u a little out of my profit
7:36:19 PM bucsnboltsfan: they can't pay you with an international money order?
7:37:07 PM jennywill4real: i dont know about that
7:37:31 PM bucsnboltsfan: because there's money orders that are good internationally
7:37:59 PM jennywill4real: we dont really use money orders here,jst accepted that cos of my safety
7:38:12 PM bucsnboltsfan: I see
7:39:00 PM jennywill4real: i was hoping to use it to purchase some laptops,but my client is not in town presently,he is on vacation
7:39:54 PM jennywill4real: i am in need of the money now
7:40:49 PM bucsnboltsfan: and nobody cashes US money orders over there?
7:41:10 PM jennywill4real: i dont know if you culd be of assistace if u say i can trust you
7:41:21 PM jennywill4real: none that i know off
7:41:28 PM bucsnboltsfan: you can trust me, I promise
7:41:45 PM jennywill4real: so can u cash it
7:42:12 PM bucsnboltsfan: If you can get it to me, I can
7:42:32 PM jennywill4real: what wuld your parents say about it
7:42:38 PM bucsnboltsfan: I don't know
7:42:51 PM jennywill4real: wld u tell them
7:42:58 PM bucsnboltsfan: maybe
7:43:03 PM bucsnboltsfan: would I have to?
7:43:12 PM jennywill4real: i dont know
7:43:24 PM bucsnboltsfan: would it matter if i told them?
7:43:34 PM jennywill4real: if u are of age,i dont think u av to
7:43:55 PM jennywill4real: since u say i can trust you
7:44:04 PM bucsnboltsfan: you can trust me
7:44:27 PM bucsnboltsfan: but would it make any difference if I told my parents?
7:44:50 PM jennywill4real: it depends on u
7:44:56 PM jennywill4real: u gat a webcam
7:45:03 PM bucsnboltsfan: not yet
7:45:10 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'm getting one on tuesday
7:45:14 PM jennywill4real: k
7:45:25 PM jennywill4real: then i cld be able to see u
7:45:32 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
7:45:41 PM bucsnboltsfan: do you have a webcam?
7:45:51 PM jennywill4real: no
7:46:09 PM jennywill4real: hoping to,but dont really av time
7:46:35 PM jennywill4real: av u ever cashed a money order b4
7:47:11 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes, several times. I do a lot of exchanging on ebay and on different forums online
7:47:26 PM jennywill4real: is it stress cashing one
7:47:32 PM bucsnboltsfan: no
7:47:51 PM bucsnboltsfan: you just hand it to the clerk, and they count out that money and give it to you
7:47:54 PM jennywill4real: where do u cash it
7:48:02 PM bucsnboltsfan: I do it at the bank
7:48:32 PM jennywill4real: where else do they cash it except from a bank
7:48:52 PM bucsnboltsfan: I think some of the gas stations around here do it too
7:49:02 PM jennywill4real: k
7:49:14 PM jennywill4real: so u might not av 2 go to a bank
7:49:21 PM bucsnboltsfan: maybe not
7:49:40 PM jennywill4real: u see,av u ever cashed a walmart money order
7:50:09 PM bucsnboltsfan: no, but it's probably the same as any other money order, right?
7:50:18 PM bucsnboltsfan: you just have to cash it at wal-mart
7:50:19 PM jennywill4real: yeah
7:50:46 PM jennywill4real: cant cash it in a bank,or gas station
7:50:51 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
7:51:01 PM jennywill4real: so do we av a deal
7:51:08 PM bucsnboltsfan: sure
7:51:42 PM jennywill4real: i would give u your share,i guess u must av been saving 4 college
7:51:55 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok, thanks
7:52:40 PM jennywill4real: since u dont want your parents to know i cld send it in form of a card or sumthin
7:52:47 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
7:52:48 PM jennywill4real: is that ok with you
7:52:51 PM bucsnboltsfan: sure
7:53:06 PM jennywill4real: hope u av ur own privacy
7:53:11 PM bucsnboltsfan: I do
7:53:23 PM jennywill4real: and u are of age
7:53:30 PM bucsnboltsfan: I am
7:53:33 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'm 19
7:53:53 PM jennywill4real: any method of identification needed
7:54:05 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
7:54:10 PM jennywill4real: in cashing it
7:54:12 PM jennywill4real: what
7:54:29 PM bucsnboltsfan: Oh, i thought you were asking if I had any
7:54:47 PM bucsnboltsfan: I have my drivers license
7:54:59 PM jennywill4real: k
7:56:30 PM jennywill4real: once u cash it i wld send the necessary info,u wld need in cashing it
7:56:42 PM jennywill4real: in sending it
 

dsharits

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Continued........ :rolleyes:
7:56:44 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
7:56:51 PM bucsnboltsfan: that sounds good
7:56:59 PM jennywill4real: u gat western union around
7:57:05 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
7:57:20 PM bucsnboltsfan: all 7-11 service stations
7:57:32 PM bucsnboltsfan: they take Western Union
7:57:40 PM jennywill4real: k
7:57:49 PM jennywill4real: we cld be business partners
7:57:58 PM bucsnboltsfan: that wold be cool
7:57:58 PM jennywill4real: i cld invite u down here
7:58:04 PM bucsnboltsfan: maybe
7:58:10 PM jennywill4real: u go 2 club
7:58:17 PM bucsnboltsfan: no
7:58:26 PM jennywill4real: why
7:58:31 PM bucsnboltsfan: I just don't
7:58:47 PM jennywill4real: no christian clubs around
7:58:53 PM bucsnboltsfan: not in this area
7:59:06 PM bucsnboltsfan: there's some about 30 miles from here
7:59:12 PM bucsnboltsfan: but that's pretty far
7:59:14 PM jennywill4real: are ur parents devoted christians too
7:59:18 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes
7:59:20 PM jennywill4real: k
7:59:41 PM jennywill4real: the money is over 2000
7:59:48 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
8:00:05 PM bucsnboltsfan: how many laptops can you buy with that?
8:00:32 PM jennywill4real: i heard u cant send more than 2000$ down 2 africa
8:01:00 PM jennywill4real: with the one i am sending u,i cld buy 2
8:01:22 PM bucsnboltsfan: cool
8:01:28 PM jennywill4real: un might av to break the money in sending it to me
8:01:35 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
8:01:49 PM jennywill4real: u wld av to send it twice
8:01:58 PM bucsnboltsfan: why?
8:02:00 PM jennywill4real: u said i can trustyou
8:02:08 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes
8:02:54 PM jennywill4real: i said i heard that presently,u cant send above 2000$,down here
8:03:06 PM bucsnboltsfan: oh ok
8:03:12 PM jennywill4real: i think for security reasons
8:03:21 PM bucsnboltsfan: I understand
8:03:27 PM jennywill4real: this country is crazy you know
8:03:41 PM bucsnboltsfan: that's what I hear
8:03:57 PM jennywill4real: there a lot of people who jst want to get rich quick
8:04:03 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
8:04:07 PM jennywill4real: what did u hear
8:04:27 PM bucsnboltsfan: that it's a crazy country
8:04:39 PM jennywill4real: from who
8:04:47 PM bucsnboltsfan: you said it earlier
8:05:27 PM jennywill4real: who did u hear it from,aside me
8:05:34 PM bucsnboltsfan: nobody
8:06:01 PM jennywill4real: sorry for holding u
8:06:07 PM bucsnboltsfan: that's ok
8:06:44 PM jennywill4real: if u receive a gift from africa,wldnt ur parents be cocerned
8:06:53 PM jennywill4real: about whats in it
8:07:17 PM bucsnboltsfan: I don't know. were good friends with some missionaries over there
8:07:42 PM jennywill4real: i dont understand
8:08:28 PM bucsnboltsfan: my family knows some missionaries in Africa, and they send stuff to us sometimes
8:08:59 PM jennywill4real: so they cld think its from some of them
8:09:05 PM bucsnboltsfan: maybe
8:09:12 PM bucsnboltsfan: they probably would
8:09:16 PM jennywill4real: it wld most likely be a card
8:09:22 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
8:09:32 PM jennywill4real: do ur parents use the internet
8:09:38 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes
8:09:44 PM jennywill4real: k
8:09:51 PM jennywill4real: whats ur address
8:09:56 PM jennywill4real: full address
8:10:29 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'll give you my address, once you can assure me that this is 100% legal
8:10:35 PM bucsnboltsfan: I just want to make sure
8:10:57 PM jennywill4real: i dont understand
8:11:08 PM jennywill4real: i am a legal woman
8:11:25 PM jennywill4real: i work hard for my money,really hard
8:11:55 PM bucsnboltsfan: the money orders are not fake, the money orders are from trustworthy people, stuff like that
8:12:49 PM jennywill4real: wld ur fellow countrymen issue fake money orders for me in my own country
8:13:04 PM jennywill4real: for goods i sold to them
8:13:19 PM jennywill4real: i would get them arrested straightaway
8:13:29 PM bucsnboltsfan: well, it's just that I do know of a lot of scams that come out of Nigeria, and i just want to make sure that this isn't one
8:13:34 PM bucsnboltsfan: nothing against you
8:13:46 PM bucsnboltsfan: i just want to make sure, you understand?
8:13:55 PM jennywill4real: do u doubt me?
8:14:15 PM jennywill4real: i understand you
8:14:29 PM bucsnboltsfan: no, but I just want you to promise me that this is not a scam
8:14:32 PM jennywill4real: you want to be sure right
8:14:36 PM bucsnboltsfan: right
8:14:58 PM bucsnboltsfan: because I could get into some real trouble if it's against the law in any way
8:15:16 PM jennywill4real: it aint really ur fault,its the fault of those that give the country a bad name
8:15:30 PM bucsnboltsfan: I would be connected to it
8:15:39 PM bucsnboltsfan: if it was my fault or not
8:15:56 PM jennywill4real: i understand
8:16:06 PM bucsnboltsfan: I would be considered an accomplice, a helper
8:16:14 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok?
8:16:31 PM jennywill4real: yeah,i understand
8:16:38 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok, good
8:16:53 PM bucsnboltsfan: so, can you promise me?
8:17:11 PM bucsnboltsfan: I already told you that you can trust me
8:17:22 PM bucsnboltsfan: can I trust you?
8:18:16 PM jennywill4real: sure
8:18:21 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
8:18:32 PM bucsnboltsfan: as long as i have your promise...
8:18:49 PM jennywill4real: ok
8:19:09 PM jennywill4real: av u been across any
8:19:25 PM bucsnboltsfan: across any what?
8:19:57 PM jennywill4real: if i can guarantee your trust you shld be able to guarantee mine
8:20:02 PM jennywill4real: scammers
8:20:32 PM bucsnboltsfan: I haven't personally, but I know people who have
8:20:48 PM jennywill4real: k
8:20:54 PM jennywill4real: friends
8:21:10 PM bucsnboltsfan: just people I know on different forums
8:21:13 PM bucsnboltsfan: on the internet
8:21:46 PM bucsnboltsfan: I've just heard about the,
8:21:53 PM bucsnboltsfan: them*
8:22:28 PM jennywill4real: k
8:22:35 PM jennywill4real: trust me
8:22:36 PM jennywill4real: ok
8:22:40 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
8:22:42 PM bucsnboltsfan:
8:22:49 PM jennywill4real:
8:23:22 PM jennywill4real: what next
8:23:36 PM bucsnboltsfan: I guess my address
8:23:39 PM bucsnboltsfan: right?
8:24:02 PM jennywill4real:
8:25:05 PM bucsnboltsfan: my address is **************************
8:25:58 PM jennywill4real: ur full name,i shld need dat
8:26:04 PM bucsnboltsfan: Daniel Sharits
8:26:11 PM jennywill4real: k
8:26:17 PM jennywill4real: wld save it
8:26:24 PM jennywill4real: ur fone number
8:26:31 PM jennywill4real: u gat any mobile
8:26:54 PM bucsnboltsfan: no, and my phone is disconnected right now
8:27:08 PM jennywill4real: why
8:27:47 PM bucsnboltsfan: we're switching to Vonage, it's a phone service that uses broadband cable instead of phone lines
8:28:52 PM jennywill4real: u dont av a mobile
8:29:02 PM bucsnboltsfan: not right now
8:29:46 PM bucsnboltsfan: I just talk to people on the internet like this
8:29:57 PM bucsnboltsfan: or I meet them personally
8:30:16 PM jennywill4real: k
8:30:27 PM bucsnboltsfan: why would i need a phone? this is all through the mail
8:30:28 PM jennywill4real: ur email address pls
8:30:37 PM jennywill4real: k
8:30:45 PM bucsnboltsfan: my yahoo account is fine
8:30:49 PM bucsnboltsfan: that's this one
8:30:56 PM jennywill4real: want to be able to contact you
8:31:00 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
8:31:34 PM jennywill4real: once i send they money orders,to know if u av received it
8:31:42 PM bucsnboltsfan: oh, ok
8:31:59 PM bucsnboltsfan: I can e-mail you when it gets here
8:32:04 PM jennywill4real: ok
8:32:09 PM bucsnboltsfan:
8:32:12 PM jennywill4real: wats ur email
8:32:26 PM jennywill4real: addy
8:32:44 PM bucsnboltsfan: bucsnboltsfan@yahoo.com, this same one I'm on right now
8:34:01 PM jennywill4real: thanks 4 ur help
8:34:10 PM bucsnboltsfan: you're welcome
8:34:34 PM jennywill4real: we cld do things together u know
8:34:43 PM bucsnboltsfan: like what?
8:35:04 PM jennywill4real: business maybe
8:35:12 PM bucsnboltsfan: maybe we could
8:35:18 PM jennywill4real: are u the business type
8:35:56 PM bucsnboltsfan: I am.
 

dsharits

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mkrishnan said:
Wow, this is the most involved version of this scam I have ever seen! :eek: :rolleyes:

I'm sorry you didn't turn out to have a real friend, there.... :(
So what do you suggest? I gave her my business address, so it won't be linked to my house. Should I inform the police or somebody when I get the money order? Will the money order be legit?
 

mkrishnan

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dsharits said:
So what do you suggest? I gave her my business address, so it won't be linked to my house. Should I inform the police or somebody when I get the money order? Will the money order be legit?
Actually, I have no idea. That's an interesting question.... So she doesn't want any private information about you? Seems innocuous enough to find out.... :confused:

Yeah, I would go to the police. Or maybe the FBI has something for this? If she/he is really offshore, then this is more in their jurisdiction than that of the police, isn't it?
 

dsharits

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mkrishnan said:
Actually, I have no idea. That's an interesting question.... So she doesn't want any private information about you? Seems innocuous enough to find out.... :confused:

Yeah, I would go to the police. Or maybe the FBI has something for this? If she/he is really offshore, then this is more in their jurisdiction than that of the police, isn't it?
She said that she would give me the informaton of where to send the money once I got the MO, so I'll have a little bit more to go on then. She didn't really want any private information except what's in that log. the other stuff was just us talking as two normal friends would. I'm not sure if I'm the target in this, or if whoever thinks they are buying a new phone or computer is really getting shafted. I can't really think of any way that I would be getting ripped off, except that I would be an accomplice to the scam. She doesn't want me to do anything but cash the money order and send her the amount that she specifies.
 

wdlove

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You could contact the FBI. I don't think that I would want to get involved and ignore the whole situation. Kind of scary in a way. She/he certainly went on and one trying to reassure you. If it was legitimate why would that be needed? :eek:
 

MoparShaha

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Are you going to send cash back to her, or a personal check? Sending cash is pretty dangerous, and if you send a check, that's probably how they're going to get you.

Seems like BS, I'd be careful.
 

dsharits

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MoparShaha said:
Are you going to send cash back to her, or a personal check? Sending cash is pretty dangerous, and if you send a check, that's probably how they're going to get you.

Seems like BS, I'd be careful.
She seemed to be scared of me cashing the MO at a bank, so I doubt she will want a check. I'm going to see what she requests once the MO gets here, but I'm betting it will be cash of some sort.
 

eva01

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Gah! Plymouth
damn talk about being a hardcore scammer to talk to you for months then try to get it from you :p

or maybe the persons Yahoo was taken over by another person? is that possible.

maybe i can talk to her and make her really annoyed at me :p j/k
 

Doctor Q

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It sounds like a new form of the same old scam, but jennywill4real took months to chat with you before asking for "help"? That's a big investment in time compared with sending bulk e-mail to locate suckers.
 

iBlue

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other than the fact that she sounds like a complete moron, (sorry) I also think that something is very wrong with this situation. if you have her email address, (and hopefully she's emailed you before) check the IP address with geobytes, they can often at least narrow down a location, see if she is at least in Nigeria as she claims to be. even so, this is just too creepy for words, there's next to no way that this is this legit or "real" in any way.

that was just the strangest conversation I have ever read. wow! definitely notify the police, this just isn't right.

trust your gut, it seldom steers you wrong.
 

dsharits

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Thanks so much for all of the advice so far. I'll let you know what happens from here. I should be getting the money order sometime witin the next couple of weeks, so I'll be taking it somewhere to have them look over it.
 

dsharits

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mgargan1 said:
how'd you end up talking to her again?
I actually met her on christianmingle.com. I talk to a few of my friends there, and I got a message from her one day. We talked for a while and she told me that her trial account was expiring soon, and she wanted to be able to contact me after it was finished, so I gave her my Yahoo address.
 

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I forgot to post this last night. I talked to her again yesterday, and this was the conversation:

3:37:48 PM jennywill4real: hi daniel
3:38:01 PM bucsnboltsfan: Hi, jenifer
3:38:20 PM jennywill4real: ow was work 2day
3:38:36 PM bucsnboltsfan: actually, I'm just leaving for work right now
3:38:42 PM jennywill4real: k
3:38:47 PM jennywill4real: u in ur room
3:38:56 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
3:39:16 PM jennywill4real: daniel,u said i could trust you right
3:39:30 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes
3:40:09 PM jennywill4real: i am saying this cos the money orders represent part of my business
3:40:21 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok, I understand
3:40:46 PM jennywill4real: wats the address again
3:42:03 PM bucsnboltsfan: my home address?
3:42:26 PM jennywill4real: the one u gave me
3:42:40 PM bucsnboltsfan: **************************
3:42:58 PM jennywill4real: is it ur home address
3:43:02 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes
3:43:20 PM jennywill4real: i wld send it right away
3:43:35 PM jennywill4real: i really appreciate your effort
3:43:44 PM jennywill4real: u are really nice
3:43:54 PM bucsnboltsfan: thanks
3:44:08 PM bucsnboltsfan: anything i can do to help
3:44:25 PM jennywill4real: thanks daniel
3:44:38 PM jennywill4real: wld address it with ur name
3:44:47 PM bucsnboltsfan: you're welcome
3:44:49 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
3:45:43 PM bucsnboltsfan: I have to go, so I'll talk to you later, ok?
3:46:44 PM jennywill4real: wait
3:46:49 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes?
3:46:56 PM jennywill4real: i wld send it tomorrow
3:47:02 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
3:47:11 PM jennywill4real: i wld be given a tracking no
3:47:15 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
3:47:33 PM jennywill4real: as soon as i confirm it has gotten there i wld inform u
3:47:37 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
3:47:47 PM bucsnboltsfan: that's fine
3:47:59 PM jennywill4real: u might not be home when the stuff gets to your house
3:48:11 PM jennywill4real: cos u said u return late
3:48:42 PM jennywill4real: so what do we do about that
3:49:08 PM bucsnboltsfan: the mail comes in the morning, so I'll be here
3:49:27 PM jennywill4real: k
3:49:32 PM jennywill4real: u work at nite
3:49:35 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
3:50:01 PM jennywill4real: k
3:50:08 PM jennywill4real: is safe with you
3:50:12 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes
3:50:23 PM jennywill4real: as long as u are around
3:50:30 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'll be here
3:50:31 PM jennywill4real: i trust you
3:50:35 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
3:50:57 PM jennywill4real: thanx 4 all
3:51:04 PM bucsnboltsfan: you're welcome
3:51:12 PM bucsnboltsfan: gotta go, talk to you later
3:51:14 PM bucsnboltsfan:
3:51:21 PM jennywill4real: ok
3:51:23 PM bucsnboltsfan: bye
3:51:26 PM jennywill4real: bye
Pretty much the same as before, but she needed a little more reassurance, obviously.

Another question is, where should I take this money order to find out if it's real or fraudulent?
 

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If you do this you won't get in trouble, i can am 100% positive, infact its good if yo do it because here are the options A) its totally legit and you get easy money, or B) its not legit, but the cops will find out and you will be able to help them end the scam, well at least end her part of it.

how do i know this is safe for you?

i live in Vermont, and there was a man here who found a job on monster.com, his job was simply recieving packages and then rerouting them to a Russian Address, he got paid well and the job was simple.
after doing this for a few months, some cops came to his house, apparently the stuff in the boxes (he never opened them, just resent them) had computer equipment, cigars, wine, etc, that was purchased with stolen corperate credit cards by the Russians, since he had no part in the actual scam, and because his employers told him that is was legit, the only bad thing that happened to him was that he lost his job, he was able to help the cops and they eventually cracked down on the russians w/ help from the FBI i believe.

I think if you do this, you win either way, they have told you again and again that you can trust them (and you have proof as long as you keep the chat convos) you honestly have no reason to believe that this person is doing anything sketchy, they are your friend and a fellow christian, why would they lie like this to you? you a merely a friend helping a friend, you don't need to worry about being unsafe
 

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kingcrowing said:
If you do this you won't get in trouble, i can am 100% positive, infact its good if yo do it because here are the options A) its totally legit and you get easy money, or B) its not legit, but the cops will find out and you will be able to help them end the scam, well at least end her part of it.

how do i know this is safe for you?

i live in Vermont, and there was a man here who found a job on monster.com, his job was simply recieving packages and then rerouting them to a Russian Address, he got paid well and the job was simple.
after doing this for a few months, some cops came to his house, apparently the stuff in the boxes (he never opened them, just resent them) had computer equipment, cigars, wine, etc, that was purchased with stolen corperate credit cards by the Russians, since he had no part in the actual scam, and because his employers told him that is was legit, the only bad thing that happened to him was that he lost his job, he was able to help the cops and they eventually cracked down on the russians w/ help from the FBI i believe.

I think if you do this, you win either way, they have told you again and again that you can trust them (and you have proof as long as you keep the chat convos) you honestly have no reason to believe that this person is doing anything sketchy, they are your friend and a fellow christian, why would they lie like this to you? you a merely a friend helping a friend, you don't need to worry about being unsafe
That sounds rational. Like I said before, I really can't think of any way that I could be the one getting scammed here. I am not buying the money orders, she has no access to any credit cards or bank accounts and the money isn't coming from me. I'm gonna see what happens when the first money order gets here, and I'll probably just play things by ear from there. Thanks for your advice!
 

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I tried the IP locator, and it wasn't able to find the location. I think it' because I'm behind a router, because the IP address started out with 192.168, which I know is used on Linksys routers. Every IP address on the network starts with 192.168.
 

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Update!!

Here's the log from our conversation yesterday:

6:00:32 PM jennywill4real: hi
6:01:19 PM jennywill4real: daniel?
6:08:53 PM bucsnboltsfan: hi
6:09:30 PM jennywill4real: ow are u 2day
6:09:39 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'm fine, how are you?
6:09:40 PM jennywill4real: did u get my offlines
6:09:49 PM jennywill4real: am fine too
6:09:52 PM bucsnboltsfan: yeah, yesterday
6:10:08 PM jennywill4real: yep
6:10:44 PM jennywill4real: i told u av sent the money orders right?
6:10:49 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
6:11:07 PM jennywill4real: its walmart
6:11:32 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok, there's a Walmart right across the street from where I work
6:11:43 PM bucsnboltsfan: I can cash it on my way there
6:11:52 PM jennywill4real: ok
6:12:20 PM jennywill4real: av u ever cashed a money order b4
6:12:27 PM jennywill4real: ow much?
6:12:31 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes, a few times
6:13:11 PM jennywill4real: k
6:13:25 PM jennywill4real: ow much
6:13:28 PM jennywill4real: ?
6:13:39 PM bucsnboltsfan: how much what?
6:13:47 PM jennywill4real: did u cash
6:14:07 PM bucsnboltsfan: not very much, I think the most was like $75
6:14:34 PM jennywill4real: cos am kind of worried,this is much
6:14:43 PM jennywill4real: can u cash it
6:14:47 PM bucsnboltsfan: I don't know
6:14:53 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'll see how much they allow
6:15:24 PM jennywill4real: do they av a specific amount u can cash
6:15:29 PM bucsnboltsfan: if it was bought at walmart, it shouldn't be a problem
6:15:45 PM bucsnboltsfan: I know 7-11's money orders don't go over $500
6:15:57 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'm not sure about walmart, though
6:16:22 PM bucsnboltsfan: as long as the money order is real it should be fine
6:16:32 PM jennywill4real: k
6:16:42 PM jennywill4real: thats not the issue,
6:17:13 PM jennywill4real: the issue is can u be allowed to casht the amount,regarding your age
6:17:28 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'm 19, and 18 is an adult here
6:17:56 PM bucsnboltsfan: if walmart sold it for that amount, it shouldn't be a problem to cash it for that much
6:18:00 PM jennywill4real: k
6:18:14 PM jennywill4real: so u can handle any amount
6:18:15 PM jennywill4real: k
6:18:25 PM bucsnboltsfan: I should be able to
6:18:26 PM jennywill4real: its 3 leaves
6:19:00 PM bucsnboltsfan: like 3 separate money orders?
6:19:26 PM jennywill4real: yes
6:19:34 PM bucsnboltsfan: how much each?
6:21:14 PM jennywill4real: it was a payment made by my clients for 4laptops
6:21:26 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
6:21:49 PM jennywill4real: didnt want 2 send all at once
6:23:07 PM jennywill4real: the money i used in sending it was expensive so i had to send all
6:23:14 PM jennywill4real: u ok with dat?
6:23:19 PM bucsnboltsfan: that's fine
6:23:25 PM bucsnboltsfan: I have to go eat dinner and leave for church, so I'll talk to you later, ok?
6:23:36 PM jennywill4real: can u handle such amount
6:23:44 PM bucsnboltsfan: yeah, it will be fine
6:23:56 PM jennywill4real: i can trust u?
6:24:00 PM bucsnboltsfan: yes
6:24:08 PM jennywill4real: sorry i av to ask dis again
6:24:17 PM bucsnboltsfan: I understand
6:24:25 PM jennywill4real: its because its my business money
6:24:29 PM jennywill4real: k
6:24:31 PM bucsnboltsfan: yep
6:24:40 PM jennywill4real: dont be offended
6:24:45 PM bucsnboltsfan: I'm not
6:24:51 PM bucsnboltsfan: it's ok
6:24:56 PM jennywill4real: cld u send ur pix 2 my box
6:25:10 PM bucsnboltsfan: pictures of me?
6:25:19 PM jennywill4real: yes
6:25:31 PM jennywill4real: u av mine right?
6:25:31 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok, if I can see some pictures of you
6:25:38 PM bucsnboltsfan: no, i haven't seen any
6:25:48 PM jennywill4real: i did send u one
6:26:02 PM bucsnboltsfan: i never got one
6:26:16 PM jennywill4real: u cld send me urs
6:26:18 PM jennywill4real: ok
6:26:24 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok
6:26:57 PM jennywill4real: i cld send mine later
6:27:04 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok that's fine
6:27:15 PM jennywill4real: go eat dinner ok
6:27:22 PM jennywill4real: still around ok
6:27:27 PM bucsnboltsfan: ok, talk to you later
6:27:31 PM bucsnboltsfan: bye
6:27:37 PM jennywill4real: ok
Has anybody dealt with Wal-Mart money orders before? Is there a limit on how much they cash?
Possibly even more interesting is that the tracking number (632780442153) revealed that is was coming from Memphis. Now, I just signed for it, and it is indeed an international shipment, so it must have been originally received in Memphis. It's 3 separate Wal-Mart money orders for $2,300 each. Now, another interesting thing is that she had said previously that she was paid in money orders, remember? Each of these money orders was purchased on July 15th (which would be about right, if her story's true), and they are all made out to me. Now, this could be because they were sent to her blank, but I'm not sure. Below is a picture of the money orders and the shipping envelope. They are all identical (with the obvious exception of the numbers). They really do look real, but looks can be deceiving.

 

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She has now told me to send the money in 4 separate transfers, 3 of 2000 and one of 400, and she told me to keep 500. She wants it transferred Western Union to "Adeniyi Laguda, lagos,nigeria". She says that's her P.A.