What features would entice you to trade up to AW2 having bought AW1?

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by wlow3, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. wlow3 macrumors regular

    Sep 9, 2008
    I guess it would not be totally accurate to say the watch is essentially a dumb terminal (especially after native apps start rolling out later this year), but it does seem currently to have a lot in common with, say, CarPlay, i.e., being mostly a bluetooth display for your iPhone.

    As such, I’m not sure how Apple could improve it in the next generation or so to make me want to trade up. Native apps always take a while to catch up to hardware improvements. New sensors? I’m really not sure what new sensor they could add. A sleep sensor would be nice but I don’t see battery life improving all that much to support 24hr wearing. Other health sensors I could imagine might only be worthwhile to the people who have a particular problem, say, with blood sugar. And I’m not sure how much thinner they could get it and still have a functional digital crown.

    What do you think they could feasibly do to get you to trade up next year or the year after?
  2. largefarrva macrumors 6502a

    Jun 30, 2012
    For me it would need to have a better battery life and actually be waterproof for a few meters at least. Seeing as how these two criteria aren't going to improve for a good while yet, I imagine I'll be holding onto my 1st gen. watch for quite some time.
  3. technosix macrumors 6502a

    Jan 13, 2015
    West Coast USA
    I don't see a compelling use case for the present watch.

    I'll wait and see what happens after the honeymoon is over.

    Then based on what it does best, I'll be able to evaluate it accordingly.
  4. rhyme macrumors regular


    Sep 22, 2013
    Longer battery life, compatibility with the bands that I will already have, more sensors to improve fitness and health tracking.
  5. betabeta macrumors 6502a

    Jun 28, 2013
    If it says :apple:watch 2. I'll buy it, I'm a sucker for new and shinny when it comes to tech:D
  6. Esexx macrumors 6502


    Mar 12, 2015
    Definetly waterproof is my #1 upgrade I would love to see then extended battery life.

    The rest... I don't know until they surprise me with something groundbreaking.

    I probably won't sell my first AW, probably give it to my kid.
  7. valleydesign macrumors member

    Mar 29, 2012
    Waterproof. Less Bezel. Better battery. Facetime.
  8. cmChimera macrumors 68040


    Feb 12, 2010
    If it told me my blood alcohol content, I'd preorder.
  9. DreamPod macrumors 65816


    Mar 15, 2008
    People talking about improved battery life, realize that any amount of improved battery life is mostly pointless unless it is more than double. I mean, say they add 10 hours of battery life - that would be amazing, but for 28 hours of battery life to actually be of any use you'd have to charge your watch during the day.

    For extra battery life to actually be useful for average use, they'd need to improve it enough to last at least 40 hours, that would be a full day plus 16 hours, just enough to last two days per charge the owner sleeps 8 hours.

    For me, I can't think of anything they could add to make me want an AW2 after just one year, since more than double battery life just isn't going to happen, and I'm not a fitness guru so I don't need more sensors. Being more waterproof would be useful the few times a year I go swimming, but that alone wouldn't make me buy a new watch. Maybe a holographic display...
  10. rhyme macrumors regular


    Sep 22, 2013
    Charging daily doesn't bother me, but with the current battery life, I am worried about two things:
    1) Long workouts. Will I be able to use the watch to its full extent on days when I spend two to eight hours exercising?
    2) Decline in battery life over time. When it's new, I can charge it once a day, but as it gets older, it might not last out the day.
  11. Bonestle macrumors member


    Jul 18, 2012
    Are you my long-lost sibling? :D
  12. i0Nic macrumors 65816

    May 17, 2006
    Sydney, Australia
  13. Appl3FTW macrumors 603


    Nov 15, 2012
  14. KauaiBruce macrumors 6502a


    Jul 5, 2007
    Kauai, HI
    7 day battery. Any less and I will forget to charge it.

    It would have to have seriously enhanced sensors that read something I need read.
  15. Multiverse223 macrumors regular

    Mar 16, 2015
    I have to tell you, blood glucose is important to every human being on the planet. Knowing this, and learning how to control it (I.e. no sugar, far less carbohydrates) is pivotal to health in numerous ways. The less you bombard your body with high levels of blood glucose and consequently insulin, the better your health will be. Humans weren't designed to eat the high densities of sugar and refined carbohydrates that are abundant in the vast majority of foods in modern society. The fear of fat is profoundly detrimental to society, and it has to change.
  16. KenAFSPC macrumors 6502a

    Sep 12, 2012
    Always-on time (without a backlight) like other OLED smart watches, plus 48 hours of battery life to make it through two days and two nights without a charge.
  17. Multiverse223 macrumors regular

    Mar 16, 2015
    The only 7 day battery life you will get out of this until a completely new battery technology is being used, is possibly completely in power reserve mode. If you think you'll get the functionality of an Watch to last 7 days anytime soon, you're sorely mistaken. I hate to break it to people, but Apple has largely kept battery life the same on all iPhones, iPads, iPods, and MacBooks. It's increased only by a low percentage throughout the generations of these devices. It will only see a large percentage increase, when a breakthrough in batteries is being used in consumer electronics.


    If you're working out that long it definitely won't last thoughout the day, seeing as how it has an estimated 6.5 hours of workout time. Anyway, if you're working out 8 hours, you may want to not, because that would be detrimental to health if anything.


    I doubt they'll ever add FaceTime. It's not practical really, because trust me, you're not going to want to hold your wrist up for more than a few seconds to talk to someone. Not to mention the waste of space it would be. You're right that they should reduce the bezel, and I hope they reduce it completely, ergo there would be no room for a camera.
  18. rhyme macrumors regular


    Sep 22, 2013
    I'm not "working out" for 8 hours, but I do have days when I am physically active for 8 hours (e.g. cycling at a moderate pace, or hiking in the hills), and would like the watch to give me an accurate estimate of my activity and calorie burn on those days.
  19. Cashmonee macrumors 6502a


    May 27, 2006
    I would want to see a version that is more rugged, less delicate. Something that would replace my fenix 3. That means a good all around outdoors/sports watch. To accomplish this, it would need GPS, significantly improved battery (fenix goes about a week), GPS nav features (not turn by turn, but in the woods with no trail), waterproof, more durable design, ability to be mounted securely to a bike, full 3rd party app workout support with real time metrics. That is what I have off the top of my head.

    I am not holding my breath, since Apple seem much more interested in selling an overpriced fashion accessory than a tool that serves a real purpose.
  20. amitdoc2b macrumors 6502a

    Feb 25, 2008
    In the following order, this would convince me to upgrade to AW2:

    1) Longer battery life
    2) Inclusion of a camera for photos/video
    3) More innovative design
    4) Lower starting price
    5) Increased customization options (i.e. Space Black SS even at introductory price point)
    6) Slimmer profile with less bezel
    7) Inclusion of the Apple Logo somewhere visible like other brands do (i.e. Rolex, Oakley, etc)
  21. KauaiBruce macrumors 6502a


    Jul 5, 2007
    Kauai, HI
    You totally missed the point of the question. It was 'what would it take for us to upgrade?', Not 'What do you expect the next one to do?'

    I would not upgrade for just an incremental battery life extension. It would have to have seriously new features that I WANT.
  22. betabeta macrumors 6502a

    Jun 28, 2013
    We are in the same cult, and I'm already nervous about the :apple:car, trying to figure out just how I'm going to be buying a new :apple:car every year:D
  23. Mobster1983 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 8, 2011
    My big thing would be a GPS so you can use the watch for working out (mainly running) without having the phone with you as well. I currently have a Garmin I use, and I think the only reason Apple did not include a stand-alone GPS in this first version is due to the already limited battery. So we probably won't see a GPS until that battery issue is greatly improved.
  24. zacheryjensen macrumors 6502a


    May 11, 2009
    First, it will have to fit and match the current bands. Then, it doesn't matter that much, any number of things would be appealing. Best would be increased battery life (probably accomplished with lower power consumption on the system board.) A GPS radio maybe? I don't expect it to shrink until the battery life can be increased past a day reliably, at which point it will only shrink if that can be maintained.

    Still, I do not expect Apple to push fast upgrades on this device. I expect, instead, to focus on the fashion element as well as focusing on enhancing the accessory value to promote the iPhone sales. I'd expect to see another set of bands in 6 months or so. A product red leather loop band, for example.
  25. Multiverse223 macrumors regular

    Mar 16, 2015
    I would say:
    • More sensors
    • Thinner bezel
    • more independence from iPhone, or syncing with iPod/iPad as well
    • ability to use it as a virtual proximity key to all of your devices, including smart home devices, and car (approach and unlocks/turns on, leave and locks/turns off)
    • More, sub-$79 bands
    • More materials for the cases
    • better water resistance
    • ability to leave watch face on constantly, if desired
    • Ability to purchase without a band (use current band)

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