What happened to America?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by G51989, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. G51989 macrumors 68030

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    I was doing a good amount of thinking and....

    50 years ago, America was the top brand in everything...Cars...Food....Electronics...art....schooling...higher education....social mobility, standard of living..

    And when it comes down to it....America has given the world everything from the mass producer car, electric lights...to the iPhone and the personal computer.....

    Today....America is trying to make the poor even more poor, the rich even more rich, and remove every single opperity for the working and middle class citizen to move up in the world


    What the hell happened?
     
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    You took off your rose-tinted glasses, I guess.
     
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    I should mention, that the 1940s ( after the war ) 1950s, 1960s and 1970s are considered the golden age of America, good jobs, tons of great products being made, and most people had a great job and lived well, very strong unions and workers rights as well, as well as affordable healthcare, good public investment and projects, affordable college as well.

    That America wouldn't be considered " socialist libbie commies muzzies gun hating anti freedom " people by the current GOP.


    It seems like conservatives prefer the dump of the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000's ... anti workers rights...anti education...anti college....anti affordable healthcare...anti choice in elections....gerrymandering and the destruction of the very institutions that keep Americans safe to the golden age of America.

    Conservatives hate American success, they just want to dump money in the worlds biggest welfare program...the Military.
     
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    Greed, corporatism , politicians working for lobbyist instead if representing their constituents . Feel good stupidity. Bailouts for COs that should have failed . Prison system that benefits from keeping as many inmates incarcerated as possible, gazillion stupid laws aimed at sticking it to you & turning you into a criminal , god forbid you become a felon , good luck finding employment if you do, educational system in the crapper , worthless parents that should have been neutered at birth. Plenty of reasons why things are a mess.
     
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    I would guess it would have a lot to do with the fact that 50 years ago it wasn't too long after World War II, and Europe being devastated by war so they couldn't compete with the US who hadn't been touched at home. And for the rest of the world a lot of them were still dealing with the problems resulting from colonialism so they weren't in a place to challenge the US either. Now things have improved in the US over that time, but the rest of the world has improved much faster than the US has.
     
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    So can you really explain anything? Or not really? I assume you are just saying " evil liberals " without anything to back it up?
     
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    This and the profit driven mentality. An ok product that can produce an insane amount of profit is much better than building the best product possible with a smaller profit.....
     
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    If you had the choice between living in the "golden ages" and now which would you pick?

    I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in America through the 50s. I'm living it up in the tech revolution.
     
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    Yes, America had worse racial and social issues than it does today.

    But it wasn't a " slave class " and " Ruling " class as it is today.
     
  11. skunk macrumors G4

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    Indeed, that's what I was getting at, ZA, albeit obliquely. The Golden Age of the Fifties included segregation, witch-hunts, gross political interference in other countries, gross economic exploitation – and the Korean War.
     
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    I think your own words covered much of it…

    Today....America is trying to make the poor even more poor, the rich even more rich, and remove every single opperity for the working and middle class citizen to move up in the world.

    That's our problem. That simple.
     
  13. G51989 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I would say besides segeration is even worse today than it was then.

    Today, America has a " ruling class " and " slave class ", the ME wars are to fuel the Military Industrial complex and its owners.

    Economic exploration is far worse than it was in the 1950s, wages are being removed, hard work is no longer value, and as far as America
    s owners go, unless your an investment class worker on wall street, you deserve to starve in the street.
     
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    Opperities for All. That should be the new slogan. :)
     
  15. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Time happened to America. I bet most of what America is today has already been predicted and warned about.
     
  16. G51989 thread starter macrumors 68030

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    This hits the nail on the head.

    American's do not care bout their fellow man, their country, or the long term well being. They only care about short term profit, and screwing everyone else to make a buck.

    I am so glad I am leaving America next year, lets hope it falls apart, it deserves it. Any population that lets itself go form the best in the world to slavery, and pickets for lower wagers and benefits in the name of the " free market fairy ", deserves nothing less than to fail
     
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    It also hurts that Americans will buy what is the cheapest. So that also effects how business's operate.
     
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    You can thank lawyers & tons of sue happy morons for that
     
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    You've lost me there.
     
  20. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Exceptionalism.

    We thought we were entitled, and forgot we had to earn it.
     
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    Well, what happened to America 50 years ago? Perhaps it's not so hard and the answer to the first question lies with the answer to the second.

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    That's just ridiculous.
     
  22. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    Liberalization:

    In 1963 the top marginal tax rate (on incomes over $400,000) was 91%.

    In 2013, the top rate was 39.6% - less than half. (And unearned income, dividends, capital gains, "carried interest" income, etc. - was even lower. As little as 15% in some cases. Less than a minimum wage worker pays in payroll taxes.)

    So, yes: You could say that "liberalizing" the tax rates paid by the richest Americans probably has screwed the country up big time. The rich in today's America pay far lower taxes than the poor do.

    And they bleat like little babies because they are the "victims."
     
  23. skunk macrumors G4

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    Worse, they have others bleat for them.
     
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    A tiny bit of a stretch...maybe...:p

    Not commenting on the post, only the attempt to make it fit the definition of "liberalization".

    ;)
     
  25. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    It's my opinion.

    It comes from years debating people on the internet and asking why we can't look at other countries—who are outperforming us in a number of ways—and learn from them.

    And the answer invariably is ... you can't compare us to other countries. We're totally different.

    Exceptionalism has robbed us of our humility and our capability to accept that others may know more than we do.

    So we dig in and stick to our old ways. Because we're Americans, dammit.
     

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