What happened to rational government?

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  1. colourfastt macrumors 6502a

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    What happened to rational, intellectual thought in our government?

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  2. LordVic macrumors 603

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    Money
     
  3. jkcerda macrumors 6502a

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    we kept voting the for Mao to stop Hitler............
     
  4. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    Not sure that the Stalin nostalgia is a good look.
     
  5. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    Stalin was rational? The man is responsible for putting more people in body bags then Hitler.
     
  6. velocityg4 macrumors 601

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    Because we went from getting our news like this
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    To getting our news like this
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  8. velocityg4 macrumors 601

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    It's more apt to say it is fed now. Also what is presented as news is mostly opinion. Worse yet supposition.


    How far we've come.

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  9. LizKat macrumors 603

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    Madison Avenue.
     
  10. Solver macrumors 6502a

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    Which government has ever been rational and not political?
     
  11. LizKat macrumors 603

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    Well there may have been some accidentally rational ones, not likely they weren't political though. One issue with most democratic governments is that the people's votes aren't necessarily rational even if definitely political. Probably doesn't mean we should ditch either government or people's input to it. Most democracies once fairly established seem to muddle along for at least a few centuries before someone tries to tip the whole apple cart over yet again.

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  12. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040

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    Funny but,
    Picture above:
    • Left: guy responsible for more killings than Adolf Hitler.
    • Center: guy that dropped THE bomb (following up the Dresden bombing guy).
    • Right: guy that was a-ok with bombing Dresden, guy that insulted every human being he met, guy that bombed his own allies, guy that kinda messed up with India.
    Picture below:
    • Left: guy with funny hair that tweets way too much.
    • Center: guy with funny hair that talks way too much.
    • Right: guy that ride a horse and doesn't really have the same power of the guy top left.
    Nothing against Truman and Churchill as they were products of their time and they did a lot for humanity, but I prefer to live in the age of the three stooges below than the era of the three above.
     
  13. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

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    We’re intellectually lazy and perfectly willing to embrace whatever false scapegoat those who are in power throw at us. If we were rats in a maze and there was a mountain of cheese right in front of us we’d turn around and charge the roaches stuck on fly paper in the opposite end of the maze.
     
  14. appleisking macrumors 6502a

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    Putin definitely doesn't belong with Trump and Johnson. Whatever you may think of him, he's certainly not a goof and is ten steps ahead of the two morons.
     
  15. RichardMZhlubb Contributor

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    That’s FDR, not Truman.
     
  16. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040

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    Oh crap, true :)
    Well, doesn't change the bottom line.
     
  17. LizKat macrumors 603

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    Well it will be interesting to see how the GOP plays the new 10% tariff Trump just laid on the rest of Chinese goods. What's at stake now are the goods the working poor and we in the lower middle class buy each other for token holiday gifts saved up for out of the grocery money. Polyester scarves, plastic picnic-ware for the following summer...

    I suppose the Rs could try to get another bailout like the Market Facilitation Program which tried to put a bandaid on the wounds of 9 out of 10 of the rural counties that voted for Trump and got hit by backlash to the first round of tariffs... and now have no export markets... but this time the GOP would have to get a bailout past a House with Democrats in the majority. They might even pass it just to keep from being called obstructionists yet again, but they'd be very very sure to call any new bailout program what it is, namely a BAILOUT. And plaster it on the 2020 campaign ads too.

    Maybe Trump is truly a moron. Or else trying to prove that the half a dozen people who can maintain a short on Walmart are wealthy enough to buy him a re-election?
     
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    So far, it looks like the Republicans are primarily interested in destabilizing the government. The current administration is attacking the “deep state” by simply throttling and dismembering every agency they can get away with, and they seem to be doing it mostly under the radar, as CFSG acts like an utter moron, taking our attention away from what they are really up to.

    Democrats, as messed up as they may be, want government that functions as one would expect/hope in a stable society; Republicans are trying to build a plutocracy on top of the rubble of the government they are breaking. And causing damage seems a lot easier to do than is fixing thing one.
     
  19. mikef07 macrumors 6502

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    Wow. Very rarely do I find a post that makes me think like this. Well posted sir.
     
  20. LordVic macrumors 603

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    My problem with the people pictured below, is that they set the stage and set the world on a course that makes way for the people above. I don't want to have either. I want, cool. peaceful rational leaderes who lead their country, in peace and fairness with those other countries around them.

    yes, it's Naive, Ideological. But I refuse to accept less and will continue demanding better.
     
  21. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040

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    This is a totally fair demand.
     
  22. Huntn macrumors demi-god

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    • End justifies the means.
    • Undermining the system, corruption, dishonesty, unethical and immorality to win at all costs.
    • Perceived interests of political party over country.
    • Me>We.
     
  23. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040

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    Wife > Me (otherwise, I am dead.)
     
  24. LizKat macrumors 603

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    Putin's at the very least ahead of Trump although that's faint praise. Johnson's certainly in over his head because Brexit is a maze without any good exits, but he's not quite as incompetent as Trump.

    Putin may be approaching the apex of feasible power-grasping now though. There always comes some point when the bribes aren't enough and the threats draw attention to legislation that's already in place that felt like an overreach to begin with. His bill that almost makes it possible to call out someone on treason for breathing surely picked up a lot of sotto voce resentment. Now he's out there apparently seeing to it that political opponents not only get jailed but "a little bit" poisoned? He should perhaps have a caution and revert to having a proxy stand in as head of state for a turn. The army has already demonstrated a little more independence than one might have thought even as Putin was still coming to power.
     
  25. JagdTiger macrumors 6502

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    It wasn’t rational back then either.
     

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