What Happens If Terrorists Target Trump's Global Holdings?

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  1. Mac 128 macrumors 601

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    I've read a number of articles about Trump's global holdings and potential conflicts of interest with foreign governments an business partners. But the one question which hasn't been discussed, is what happens if terrorists begin targeting Trump properties, developments, and holdings?

    Never has there been a bigger bullseye on his business interests, as an attack on Trump is an attack on America now. And how will Trump respond to such attacks? Never has there been such international exposure by a sitting president, with his name literally on many of the buildings.

    Seems like a problem few have addressed. I heard a news program pundit suggest that Greenpeace might bulldoze a Trump golf course or something to that effect to protest his position on the EPA and Climate Change. But it's potentially a much bigger issue than that.
     
  2. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    Interesting question, but my gut instinct is that most of Trump's overseas investments won't make good terrorist targets. Sure, bombing Trump Tower in India or Argentina might make Trump personally mad, but most Americans aren't going to care. And ultimately, terrorism needs to make the entire nation afraid/upset, not just one man, even if he is the President.
     
  3. DearthnVader macrumors regular

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    What would you expect the US Government to do if terrorist targeted your house, car, boat?
     
  4. R.Perez macrumors 6502

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    Provide assistance for replacing it. Certainly not go to war.
     
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    I't not clear to you that an act of terrorism, is an act of war?

    9/11
     
  6. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    9/11 targets were major symbolic buildings, and the attacks killed thousamds of Americans on American soil. If a privately held house blows up, that's not reason to go to war. If the house is in non-US territory, even less so.
     
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    Depends if the attack is in a Nato country, an attack on one, is an attack on all.
     
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    So did we go to war after the attacks on Paris and Nice?
     
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    Terroists attacked are freaking embassy in Benghazi and did nothing. Hey certainly won't go to war if terrorists blew up your personal property.
     
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    What country declared war on the United States on 9/11?

    Terrorism used to be treated as a criminal justice problem, not a military problem. I would argue that was a far better approach in most circumstances. Almost everything we have done since 9/11 has escalated the problem, not made it better. I'm not saying there aren't circumstances where military action is necessary, but war is rarely justified. You don't fight a needle in a haystack by blowing up the haystack. We also need to thoroughly think through blow back for the military and intelligence actions we take and try to determine if a given course of action will have unforeseen consequences that will make the problem worse in the long run (e.g. the 2nd war in Iraq leading to the growth of ISIS).
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    I'm also of the opinion that western imperialism maintaining instability in the Middle East is the reason extremist ideologies have been able to fester and grow in the region. Many are quick to blame religious teachings in Islam for the radicalism but I don't think it's that simple.

    Does Islam contain some antiquated ideas that are oppressive if taken literally? Certainly. But so does Christianity. Christian nations (and empires) were just as awful. There are many historical examples of this: the crusades, stoning women, Salem witch trials, etc. What changed is that those countries were able to develop ideologically, economically and politically unabated. This led to the growth of education and democratic institutions that made many of those awful practices a relic of the past.

    That has not been able to happen in the Middle East. Since the development of industrial capitalism the Middle East has been a site of western intervention and conflict that has maintained instability in the region and stifled the course of progress from taking place.
     
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    We certainly didn't. Nor would we go to war with Russia if Putin decides to pinch-off and annex the Dieveniškės appendix from Lithuania or enforce a land route to Kaliningrad. NATO is a paper tiger and NATO expansion is dangerous.
     
  12. pdqgp macrumors 68020

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    What would happen? Probably nothing more than what the new administration already has in place. I seriously don't see the new peeps waiting around to be attacked to then be put in that situation. ISIS is cancer that requires a plan to remove. The problem with Obama is he's been a huge do-nothing outside some targeted attacks appease people.

    These people don't have anything to lose and care less about our values. Fighting them with kindness and our values does nothing. We need to end the Caliphate the current administration allowed them to create. Chop off the head of the snake and make it clear to them that any attempts to rise up will meet the same fate.

    The entire M.E. situation is about the strength of our nation and economic position in the world and China and Russia are not our friends there. THEY want the power too and aren't here to help us keep it. Thus taking our economy back from China is key too. We can't continue to be a nation of Pansies and consumers.

    We have to be strong and seen as the world power we were and control our own destiny. No longer should we wonder "what would happen if...." and instead show the turds in the M.E. what will happen if they do. It should be known who we are and what we stand for. Their people didn't "respect" their leaders they feared them. These aren't people of western understanding. Not the radicals that's for sure.
     
  13. Pootmatoot macrumors 6502a

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    Embassy attacks are not rare. It's odd you don't seem angry about the many embassy staff who died 2000-2008.
     
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    Were those actual ambassies destroyed? Please source your claims.
     
  15. Pootmatoot macrumors 6502a

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    As for Trump:

    1) Obviously they should all be liquidated and sold off, like everyone previously. Jimmy Carter had to liquidate the family farm holdings.

    2) Until then, security must be provided.

    3) If he ignores precedent and the spirit of the law, he then must cover costs. It'll be tens of millions a day. He'll be bankrupt by Spring.
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    Ummm, this stuff isn't secret or hard to find...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_U.S._diplomatic_facilities
     
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    Anybody can alter Wikipedia. It's not a reputable source.
     
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    Well the way you talk about the news there is no reputable source.
     
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    Which of those many attacks are you disputing? They're all thoroughly cited to contemporary news articles and government reports, and I'd guess you're old enough to remember the bulk of the latter half when they happened.
     
  19. chown33 macrumors 604

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    Wikipedia has links to all their sources.

    Using one example from the provided list (click its "more details" link):
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_attack_on_U.S._consulate_in_Herat

    At the bottom is a list of 7 references, including the date each was retrieved.

    One of the references is this PDF from state.gov:
    http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/225841.pdf

    Page number 2 discusses the attack in Herat.
     
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    But, but, Obama could have told the NSA to alter the news articles to make it look good...
     
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    In the right wing world of today only sources that agree with you are reputable, and if your views change overnight the sources that were reputable yesterday may not be today.
     
  22. jerwin macrumors 65816

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    Are you sure about that?
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    Don't underestimate the power of dreams!
     
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    Lol, that cuts both ways. My liberal friends are absolutely certain that they are correct on everything, and they back up every FB post with links to DailyKos, AlterNet, and ThinkProgress.
     
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    They do that all the time. Look at the unemployment numbers. Completely fraudulent.
     
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    Complete nonsense.
     

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