iPad Pro What happens if you try to connect 1st gen Pencil to 2018 iPad Pro?

kasakka

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So Apple replaced the Pencil with the 2nd gen model and everything says that the 2018 iPP does not support the first gen model. Some of the reasons are understandable like no magnets and inductive charging as well as the port issues.

However, if one were to just use a USB-C to Lightning adapter, would the 1st gen Pencil be just unrecognized by the 2018 iPad Pro or not charge? Because if that is the case, then Apple has deliberately made it incompatible instead of just inconvenient.

Couldn't find any info if someone has tried this.
 

Absrnd

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Thanks. So Apple can once again go **** themselves with this kind of forced deprecation.
Wow so negative :(

The new pencil is radically different, probably the insides and way how it connects to the ipad too.
and the older pencil relied on coupling through the connector, and the new iPad has no lightning connector at all.

...and aren't you a little late to the "complaint" department ?
 

naturalstar

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No one is forcing you or anyone to upgrade to the 2018 versions of the iPad or the Pencil.

Inconvenient? Maybe. But I love the Pencil 2 WAY better than the first gen. Worth the price of admission.


Totally agree. The 1st gen Pencil got on my nerves on day one and by day two, I was over it. Too slick, weird charging, and having to buy extra accessories to make sure I didn’t lose the cap or the Pencil itself? Nah. The price differential on the 2018 Pro and the 2nd gen Pencil was worth my sanity.
 

sracer

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Totally agree. The 1st gen Pencil got on my nerves on day one and by day two, I was over it. Too slick, weird charging, and having to buy extra accessories to make sure I didn’t lose the cap or the Pencil itself? Nah. The price differential on the 2018 Pro and the 2nd gen Pencil was worth my sanity.
I've never experienced those things. I bought a MoKo Pencil case and that made storing and transporting the Pencil 1 with my iPad simple and straightforward. I heavily use the Apple Pencil #1 everyday all day, transporting it from room to room, office to conference room, etc. without any hassle.

I find it interesting that many of those who are extolling the virtues of Pencil #2 now (and telling those who complain about it that their complaints are invalid), chided those who complained about the "difficulty" of owning Pencil #1 back-in-the-day (and accused them of being melodramatic), now parrot those same complaints about the #1. Amazing what a new generation of an Apple product can do to change one's opinion. ;)

And when Pencil #3 is released, those defending #2 will agree with the OP. o_O:D

It's the cycle of life.
 

naturalstar

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I've never experienced those things. I bought a MoKo Pencil case and that made storing and transporting the Pencil 1 with my iPad simple and straightforward. I heavily use the Apple Pencil #1 everyday all day, transporting it from room to room, office to conference room, etc. without any hassle.

I find it interesting that many of those who are extolling the virtues of Pencil #2 now (and telling those who complain about it that their complaints are invalid), chided those who complained about the "difficulty" of owning Pencil #1 back-in-the-day (and accused them of being melodramatic), now parrot those same complaints about the #1. Amazing what a new generation of an Apple product can do to change one's opinion. ;)

And when Pencil #3 is released, those defending #2 will agree with the OP. o_O:D

It's the cycle of life.
I purchased the 10.5” Pro and the 1st gen Pencil for the first time this past Sunday. I was coming from an Air 2. When I said “day one” and “day two”, I meant it literally. I purchased the 11” Pro and the 2nd gen Pencil yesterday and was immensely happier.

I’m not accusing anyone of being melodramatic here. The 10.5” Pro is a solid device. However, the difference between the 1st and 2nd gen Pencils leave me glad that I waited to upgrade my Air 2. That’s what I was agreeing with, but yes, everyone has to buy what works for them.

BTW, I also have a cute case from Amazon for carrying my Pencil in when not in use. I love it and it was the only item I kept from my 1st gen Pencil accessory purchases.
 

Plett

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So Apple replaced the Pencil with the 2nd gen model and everything says that the 2018 iPP does not support the first gen model. Some of the reasons are understandable like no magnets and inductive charging as well as the port issues.

However, if one were to just use a USB-C to Lightning adapter, would the 1st gen Pencil be just unrecognized by the 2018 iPad Pro or not charge? Because if that is the case, then Apple has deliberately made it incompatible instead of just inconvenient.

Couldn't find any info if someone has tried this.
I seriously recommend you do not try to pair this old device with a new flexible iPad Pro. It will create a singularity and we will all be doomed!
 

jamesrick80

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You just don't make something that's generally used for the same purpose obsolete just because something is a new device. That's completely scandalous by Apple and that's without any denial. Every S pen by Samsung works on almost every device that has s pen support.....it makes perfect sense.
 

mightyjabba

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Honestly, I was surprised when I heard that the old pencil didn’t work with the new iPads. I don’t know if there is any technical reason that it can’t work, or if they just decided that it would be inelegant to have to use an adapter to pair and charge the pencil (of course I’m not sure how elegant sticking it into the lightning port really was either...) Despite what a lot of people think, I don’t believe Apple makes decisions like this to get people to spend more money, but they’re also not likely to expend a lot of energy enabling what they think is a suboptimal solution.
 

Nhwhazup

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I’m kind of bummed about the new pencil. I know many love it but for me, I use a grip on the old one to prevent the tighter pinching and subsequent hand pain. With the new one, that will be not practical to remove the grip for charging.
 

Kiimora

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I liked Pencil 1 with my 10.5, I never had any issues with storage as it was held in the pencil loop Vaja compact sleeve. I really enjoy using the streamlined & lighter Pencil 2 with the 11, hence happy with the upgrade
 

mrex

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after reading this thread im seriously hoping to see that the new iphone on this year will only support apple watch 5, because obviously the aw5 is remarkable differend from inside than previous models. and hopefully ios 13 drops support for aw 0-3.
 

spacebro

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Its just a $100 peripheral, if its that important what's the big deal over $100 if you can afford a brand new iPad Pro? I feel like apple is antagonizing cost-sensitive people on purpose so they can go over to android forums and cry about every $1 increase there instead.
 

bpeeps

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For some reason my old truck keys do not work in my new truck. Crazy... ;)
I mean that's because every key is specifically coded to be unique and secure, so that only you have access. That's extremely different than a model of an iPad changing interconnectivity between an auxiliary device. Extremely poor comparison here.
 
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RevTEG

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I mean that's because every key is specifically coded to be unique and secure, so that only you have access. That's extremely different than a model of an iPad changing interconnectivity between an auxiliary device. Extremely poor comparison here.
That would be cool for Apple to do. Would cut down on theft. Wait, people still steal cars since we’re becoming extremely literal. Fact is things change. If Apple didn’t come out with a different pencil people would complain. If people can afford the new iPad they can most likely find a way to by the new pencil. I could get mad that my old iPad case won’t fit my new one. It’s a never ending argument of opinions settled by Apples choice to limit the new pencil to the new iPad. Make zero difference to me.
 

flur

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Honestly, Apple could avoid all the anger and negativity about the old pencil not working if they packaged the new pencil with the new iPad instead of charging for it. Just an observation.
 

flur

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Not everyone wants a pencil with their iPad Pro. So every iPad Pro would cost additional $129. Bet that would generate some anger and negativity.
Seriously? Are you under the impression that there’s no profit margin on either device? LOL. I’m betting the profit margin on the iPad Pro is over 40% and it’s probably something like 60% or more on the pencil. They can toss one in the box, change 10% less for the combo, and still make a killing.
 
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HEK

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Seriously? Are you under the impression that there’s no profit margin on either device? LOL. I’m betting the profit margin on the iPad Pro is over 40% and it’s probably something like 60% or more on the pencil. They can toss one in the box, change 10% less for the combo, and still make a killing.
Please send me what you are smoking. Apple charge less and or include more ......LMAO
 
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