I know at least one poster who will likely be extremely active in this thread. Now...there has been a lot of talk is PRSI about "freedom". Some suggest that anyone should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, as long as their actions don't "harm" someone else. So, what is "harm"? Are we talking physical harm? Emotional harm? Does inconvenience count as harm? Does something that is highly odorous, but not toxic count as harm? Some examples (I know some people don't like examples because they think it's emotional or whatever) in a society with no laws or rules: - I live in a nice, quiet neighborhood in a house I worked forever to afford. Three years later, a family of misfits moves in across the street. Because they have really odd tastes, they mount a large ship horn on top of their house which blows every hour, 24 hours a day, for 10 seconds. Being nautical enthusiasts, they also build a lighthouse in the yard, complete with a 1-million candela rotating beacon which shines right into my bedroom window. Oh, and they just throw their trash into their yard. I can't sell my house, either because no one wants to live next to that. Does this harm, or is this just something I live with because it is what it is? - A fabrication company has a factory right on a large lake. Since there are no laws to prevent them from doing so, they let a lot of trash and chemicals get into the lake. None of the chemicals are particularly dangerous, but they discolor the lake's water and make it smell awful. In addition, there is a lot of trash floating around. Seeing that nothing is toxic, no one is actually "harmed" by their actions. Is this acceptable? - I'm driving down the street and come upon a group of adults playing basketball, with a hoop they've placed square in the middle of the street. They won't stop playing or move their hoop so that cars can get by. No one is harmed, but it causes quite an inconvenience. Some people have advocated for no government, no laws, no rules, and that everything would just "work out". However, I don't think that humans are capable of actual freedom. Whether or not they cause actual harm, many actions simply impede on others.