What is your political party?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Galacticos, Mar 1, 2017.

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Which party politics do you identify with most

  1. Conservative

    9 vote(s)
    36.0%
  2. Progressive

    16 vote(s)
    64.0%
  1. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

    Galacticos

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    using US names, but pick your equivalent party for your country

    I'm intentionally only offering two options.. please pick the one that most suits you

    It will be interesting to seethe numbers.

    Also a sentence or two about what 'conservative' or 'progressive' means to you might make things interesting
     
  2. blackfox macrumors 65816

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    I'm not sure I like your criteria for the poll. I voted Progressive, but I definitely have (old-school) Conservative tendencies - and modern "Progressives" here can sometimes be irritating. I guess it's nuanced for me - a clarification of terms might help me (and others). Or I'm just another complaining Liberal...
     
  3. Galacticos thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah it's definitely nuanced. I just want to simplify it
     
  4. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Progressive.

    Registered: Green

    Vote: straight Democrat
     
  5. tshrimp macrumors 6502

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    Conservative and Progressive are not actual parties in the US. Also, there are many that would put themselves as in-between or other (but glad you didn't put a choice for someone to cop out.). I do like that you used those terms though as I think it is a better description of ones political views rather than an actual party does.

    I know this is a shock...I have become more conservative these days. Was more moderate, but the liberal/progressives drove off the deep end, and I could not follow.
     
  6. niploteksi macrumors regular

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    Also... what's progressive in some country may be deemed conservative in another...
     
  7. MacNut macrumors Core

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    How progressive are you if you didn't vote for any gay democrats. Yes it was a stupid joke.

    I am a fiscal conservative and progressive on social issues. So independent.
     
  8. Zenithal macrumors 68040

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    If you consider your sense of humor funny, then it's a joke!




    To us, at least.
     
  9. MacNut macrumors Core

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    I consider my sense of humor to be a sarcastic prick.
     
  10. Zenithal macrumors 68040

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    Sorry, can't have that title. Someone's already got that one here.
     
  11. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Being fiscally conservative is simply being rational. Who would claim they want a government that's fiscally irresponsible?

    Does being fiscally conservative mean you believe that government shouldn't spend more than it takes in? If so, then one could just raise taxes to balance the money coming in with what is going out. That, IMO, is a form of being fiscally conservative, and a category that I include myself.

    But if being fiscally conservative means minimizing government's role, shrinking it to the size one can drown in a bathtub, then that's a philosophy that I can't embrace.
     
  12. Jnesbitt82 macrumors 6502

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    I think we've evolved well beyond being able to put our choices into only one of two categories. I lean more conservative but I didn't vote for Trump. I think he was a bad choice for our country. On that note, I didn't vote for Clinton either. She was a bad choice as well. This past election was basically asking me how I wanted to be castrated. I chose to walk out of the surgery instead.
     
  13. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Your walking out didn't change the result. You threw out your vote and still lost your huevos.
     
  14. Jnesbitt82 macrumors 6502

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    I didn't throw my vote away. Just because it didn't go to your candidate of choice doesn't mean I was wrong. If you don't stand up for your own principles, what's the point of having an opinion of your own?
     
  15. Galacticos thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I know they aren't parties.. I could've said left leaning or right leaning. I'm not focused on the party, but the political world view
     
  16. MacNut macrumors Core

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    Basically don't spend more than you take in. And don't waste money on frivolous things.
     
  17. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    In an election, what is right and what is wrong? You can say you stood up for your principles, but you still got trump, and will continue to get trumped until the system changes. This has little to do with principles, and far more to do with a flawed system that rewards two party dominance ... as it has throughout U.S. History.
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    Well then, I'm a fiscal conservative too. I'd happily raise (and pay for) taxes that would balance the ledger and pay for services that I believe are vital to a functioning society.
     
  18. BeeGood macrumors 68000

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    This is me for the most part. Was more liberal in my 20s and early 30s but now consider myself to be center-right. But I still believe there are decent ideas coming from those on the left.

    No party affiliation. I just show up and vote.
     
  19. Dagless macrumors Core

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    I used to be right wing during my late teens and early 20's. I was earning a fair bit and voted for the party that wanted to let me keep as much money as possible; plus I was raised in a right wing house. Everything was traditional.

    But then a few events happened that pushed me towards more progressive and empathic ideas. What helped was seeing homelessness, having friends that were fighting for equal rights. Now I can't see myself going back. My understanding became locked in 'the more people that are healthy and happy in our society, the better it is for me'.

    And now I foresee a future where there could be massive unemployment due to further workforce automation. We're going to need strong socialism.
     
  20. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    Progressive. in Australia we have two main parties (The Conservative party forms government as a collation and the progressive party) plus a number of progressive smaller parties, I'd vote for the ALP (Australian Labor Party) and would consider the Greens party, but I prefer the ALP.
     
  21. juanm macrumors 65816

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    Alas, the transition years will be painful.
     
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    Micky Do macrumors 68000

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    Disenfranchised….. Pay tax in two countries, have three nationalities, but not elegible to vote anywhere at present.
     
  23. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    In the elections that I have voted in I've voted for candidates from the Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians, there may have been a Green Party candidate or two as well. My ideal candidate would be someone along the lines of a new Teddy Roosevelt, which I think is more likely to come from the Republicans than the Democrats at this point as the Democrats are too focused on pointless social issues. Of course that could easily change as up until a few years ago it was the Republicans who were busy trying to legislate social issues.

    That said I didn't vote for Trump, and I won't vote for Trump next time since he is too much of an idiot and far too racist.
     
  24. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a

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    If Trump is racist, then the world has truly gone to **** in terms of how it views things and it needs to take a chill pill.
     
  25. Peace macrumors Core

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    I'm gonna guess this question is for the EU folks ?

    There is no "Conservative Party" or "Progressive Party" in the US.
     

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