What kinds of professionals is the new MacBook Pro designed for?

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  1. tubeexperience, Oct 29, 2016
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    Serious question: what kinds of professionals is the new MacBook Pro designed for?

    Touch Bar

    No SDXC card slot

    No USB-A

    No HDMI
     
  2. WoodyVuko macrumors newbie

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    the touch bar is not even out yet, calm down.

    what is a pro for you? a person who is using apple for a living?
    the guys i know are already using dockingstations, they are simply amazing!
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    or you could easily buy a cheap multiport-adapter for a few bucks.
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  3. Ries macrumors 68000

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    The ones with the Apple Watch Edition. The ones that pay thousands of dollars for internals, that you get in the $249 base model, just to get a shiny case.
     
  4. UndercoverDotNetGuy macrumors newbie

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    That is just too simple to answer!
    For professional social networkers of course!
    EMOJI lie just behind a single touch!
     
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  6. tubeexperience thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Yes.
     
  7. spacebro macrumors 6502

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    As far as I could tell from the presentation, the new macbook pros are for amateur djs.
     
  8. sbpax macrumors member

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    That was unexpectedly uncomfortable for me. Really cringey.
     
  9. tubeexperience thread starter macrumors 68030

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  10. Floris macrumors 68020

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    Spoiler alert, you can buy the touch-bar laptops right now, they are out.. They're just on their way to end up at customer doorsteps, which can be a few weeks. I am sure the first will arrive any day now.

    Secondly, it is a reality, wake up .. there was a keynote and everything, lol.

    Thirdly, that second picture! Who would put a device like that on one port, that blocks the others, only to get the same amount of ports back, and maybe one more. lol. Oh well.

    Anyway, I am sure some of what you said was in jest, fine. But it's a fact that we have to transition between older usb and jack connections to newer all usb-c connectors.

    At least these 40gbit thunderbolt ports accept usb-c type connections, which is what there are more of.
    I would not put it past apple to have invested "the apple usb-c" and that we needed a usb-c to apple-usb-c adapter just to connect usb-c devices to it.

    Anyway, there are a few things we can think of here, you dont have to get a usb-c to lightning adapter, you have a wall socket for the ipad, iphone, so you can use that for the magic trackpad, keyboard and mouse as well. Plus, if you get a usb-c to usb adapter, you can cover those temporary charge devices on that one, and then use the same one for the hard drive again.

    If you get a monitor for usb-c, or rather, thunberbolt 3 in the future, or maybe have one already, then it will have usb or usb-c ports on it, most likely. And you can use the monitor to also charge the device. Still have all your ports, minus one. And have a bunch of on-the-table devices connected to the monitor, less clutter and connect/disconnecting of cables as well.

    Picking a usb-hub that splits to a couple of usb devices will take care of the rest, and is an easier connect/disconnecting thing each time you wanna take the laptop with you.

    Still two ports left.

    Things like backups can be connected to the router, a nas can be on the routers ethernet port, and the printer is probably already wireless.

    And over time more devices will be usb-c, your next hard drive that's external can be a pretty fast external ssd on usb-c, fantastic, i rather have that than an old 3.0 usb 3.5 disk with noise and vibrations and another power socket for in the wall at a slower transfer rate.

    And to answer the topic's question, it's made for people who know why they need a 3000 dollar laptop, and want the most out of its performance and experience. That apple has made some dumb choices here that we are forced to swallow will simply result in them selling less of them perhaps.

    I really think not having that sdcard slot there is a miss, but, sigh.. maybe they know only 1% uses them and they think it's time to just let that go and let that 1% get a dongle.

    I think if you want to store mass media on a laptop, having a thunderbolt3 nas on raid with redundancy, that this tbolt3 machine is a lot better of a solution than an older system. 4 of those 6tb wd drives in raid over a cable up to 40gbit, wow, yes pls.

    And for photographers, it's a dongle investment, but you get pcie ssd speed, with external storage as previous example, with a 10bit external monitor in 5k over 1 cable. And the laptop is mobile, you can take that with you, well, minus the external monitor. But you then have a retina screen that's very very nice for on-set. I'd love it as a photographer.

    As a gamer, you can still get a machine that's performing quite well, and under dual boot your windows stuff will work too. Maybe even have external gpu over thunderbolt3, geesh, that would be an amazing solution for mac gaming, gosh.. i have to learn about this.

    I think it's something for all, because usb-c allows high speed solutions.

    I think Apple would be a lot better if they weren't greedy over every penny these days, and keep RAM upgrades possible, as well as realistic. For 80 euro i can get 16gb on top of my 8gb in the iMac 5k, for example. But they ask tripple that, to replace the 8gb with 16.. effectively only adding another 8. The same with hard drives. People want to upgrade the ssd, because we come from a world where our mac pro has 6 or more TB of drives in them, our windows boxes had at least a couple of tb, and our external drives are tb drives as well. And then we got 128 ssd or 256 ssd and pay 700 euro extra just to go to 1 tb in the imac, oh common already.. for a couple hundred i can get that through a third party. It's honestly just outrageous.

    Imagine how many people make a sale a lot faster if they can BTO 32gb/1tb for 500 more .. i know i would have already placed my order. Now i am doubting, because for 3000+ i get a base model that i want to make future proof. it should have been 2400 with 600 upgrade for gpu/cpu/ram/hdd, and 3500 total with apple care, included.. now i end up with 4500 , wtf, seriously ..

    It's made for rich people, I guess, .. I know I don't have that kind of money lying around.
     
  11. WoodyVuko macrumors newbie

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    like i said, no "pro" that i know wants (or has) a s***load of cables on his desk.

    i am a it guy so maybe its not that popular in the design or whatever sector you are in
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    sorry mate, that is not what i meant. sure we have seen it, but honestly who has tried it ?
    its crazy how everybody is typing stuff about the touch bar, while we have only seen a brief demonstration.
    i mean the api is open and there is plenty room to customize the bar (downloadmanager, macros, alerts or else).

    was it smart to show emojis on the first demonstration? hell now
    will the bar be used on more than that ? who knows
    but it is definitely capable of more
     
  12. Floris macrumors 68020

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    i think there are more than a couple of handson articles out, and more to follow on monday.
     
  13. WoodyVuko macrumors newbie

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    yepp sure, but how many devs got their hands on it yet? there is so much potential
    right now it is only "i hate that" or "i love that". both is kinda wrong

    it is WAY to early to hate or love a feature that is not even shipped yet.
    only time will tell if this is a failure or not
     
  14. Floris macrumors 68020

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    My fb page has pics of ppl holding their ipad configuring their upcoming purchase.
     
  15. UBS28 macrumors 6502a

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    For professional youtube vloggers who make reviews of Apple products and do drop tests.

    Not for someone who wants to do their work remotely because you need to carry dongles to make your equipment work.
     
  16. Floris macrumors 68020

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    If it is for your work it's already recommended to take the work seriously. A photographer has not just one charged battery with them, they have a case with lenses, backups and a stack of batteries. The same should go for the laptop they do the work on. No use sitting in the middle of no where with no wifi and no wall sockets, and going 'darn, wish i brought that dongle so i could put this usb external battery pack or solar charger..'

    For normal consumers, who just bring a laptop with them, not a backpack filled with some stuff, and who don't carry tripods and camera gear, etc.. Yeah, gottah compromise and bring a dongle or two.
     
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    I'm planning on getting one, trying to decide whether or not to replace my 2015 12 inch MacBook. I'm a college administrator, professor and writer. I use one adapter which has HDMI, the power line and a USB-A slot. It's more minimalist than the thunderbolt dock I had with a previous MacBook Pro. So, who's it for? Executives, professors, designers, project managers, writers, editors, public relations professionals, government employees, association staff, human resource professionals, insurance staff, doctors, lawyers, consultants, software coders, etc., etc.

    I make my entire living on this machine and spend 10 hours a day on it. My employer will probably buy it for me, but if not it's a small investment for something that is central to my work life.

    Ask a professional mechanic at a high end car dealership how much their tools were? $25,000 is not unusual.
     
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    It if weren't for the lack of ports (specifically hdmi, and USB type A), it would still be a good device for software engineers. But now, I don't even know...

    In fact, I'm a computer/software engineering student and I was looking forward to the new macbook pro since it would provide me with both a Unix environment, and windows using bootcamp, all in a solidly built chassis. But the compromises Apple made in terms of ports, as well as the increase in price is really making me reconsider my choices.

    Why not just dual boot windows and linux on an ultrabook? Well, I have yet to find an ultrabook as well built as Apple's products with same level of warranty support.
     
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    To play devils advocate here: the pro is people needing apple software and the Mac OS environment. Some people literally need it to make their living and can't switch to windows right now even if they wanted to
     
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    Or if you live in a browser and Microsoft Office, it doesn't matter what you use. You get to choose.
     
  21. wegster macrumors 6502

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    Those same mechanics wouldn't pay Snap-On prices for Craftsman tools.
    Might also want to strike out 'software coders' from your list, as myself and anyone I work with or know is waiting on 32GB, not a touch bar.
     
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    So....... Take Apple's latest flagship iPhone 7 and their latest and greatest MacBook'Pro'.

    Connect them together.

    Oh wait..... That's right...... You can't.

    Without a DONGLE.
     
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    I like what I see in the new models, but I'm not sure if I should upgrade or not. I have an early 2013 BTO 15" MBP ( i7 2.7 / 16GB RAM / 256GB SSD model ) that I purchased back in September 2013 and it's been going strong 10-12 hour work days ever since. In the past 6 months the logic board has been swapped out 3 times due to the dGPU recall on the 650m. AppleCare just ran out last month so at this point I'm just holding my breath that nothing else goes wrong.

    Pricing would be about the same as what I paid for this BTO...$2399 + however much it costs for a decent USB-C adapter. I'm a bit puzzled as to why Apple couldn't at least include ONE adapter in the box...not to mention it's a PITA to find the accessory on their site.

    Ultimately I think we need to look past the specs and focus on quality and longevity, both of which Apple is still king compared to Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. I've put this machine through hell for 36 months, 10 hours a day, and it's still going strong.
     

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