What percent of the Democrat party actually thinks this way?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by classicaliberal, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. classicaliberal macrumors regular


    Jul 19, 2011
    Economist Peter Schiff went 'undercover' at the current Democratic National Convention, in an obvious attempt to point out some of the less logical political positions of the delegates in attendance. To say the least, the comments made by some of the delegates were pretty striking!


    I generally don't like this type of video, as it always leaves questions as to how much was edited out, what percent of the responses he got were counterproductive to the videographer's intentions... and so I think it's important when watching a video like this to take it all with a healthy heaping teaspoon of salt.

    With that being said, I'm left wondering... what percent of the members of the Democrat Party actually think like this? How many Democrats actually think that a business's profits should be capped? How many believe that a business's profits should be outlawed!? I believe and sincerely hope that this view is far less prevalent of a position than Schiff makes us believe in this video.

    Hoping some of the left-leaning forum members could help shed some light on this issue.
  2. applesith macrumors 68030


    Jun 11, 2007
    ROFL those people. I just can't at the stupidity.
  3. q64ceo macrumors regular

    Aug 13, 2010
    Each side has their idiots.

    For us on the right, we have Birthers. For those on the left, you have the "jail and execute the rich" folk.
  4. Huntn macrumors P6


    May 5, 2008
    The Misty Mountains
    I can understand where these feelings come from. Society has to be equitable for the majority, not the few. If the few are making millions/billions and the many are struggling, you can't understand where feelings of resentment come from?
  5. samiwas macrumors 68000

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    I can't watch the video as I'm in a hotel room with a sleeping baby and no headphones, so I can't watch in contact yet.

    I lean pretty darn far left, and I think the examples you gave were pretty stupid. I don't think there should be any law capping profits or...outlawing profits?? Someone said that?

    That being said, I think there is waaaayyy too much emphasis on bigger higher better larger mega profits these days. Some companies wouldn't think twice about cutting some of their employees just to boost their profits. Stocks tumble when a company's profits are even slightly below analysts' predictions. We see profit numbers in the double-digit billions and still say "their profits really aren't that great".

    I really wish that instead of hoarding billions of dollars just to prove how awesome they are, that companies would use that money for good. I know that's not what capitalism is about, and there's all that everyone should have to fend for themselves stuff, but I'd just love to see a world where a company that made ludicrous amounts of money used it for good. I know...it's dreaming.

    And i think it's beyond silly that someone like a baseball player can make $27 million a year, almost 1,000 times the median personal income for the US.
  6. TPadden, Sep 6, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2012

    TPadden macrumors 6502a

    Oct 28, 2010
    ......Unless the few make their millions the same "equitable" way those "struggling" few make theirs. :rolleyes:..........Never any resentment about lottery winners :D:D:D!

    I don't understand the difference if, as they say, the only difference between a hard working CEO and a hard working janitor is luck. :)
  7. SwiftLives macrumors 65816


    Dec 7, 2001
    Charleston, SC
    Should profits be capped or outlawed? - hell no. I'd go so far as to say that would be un-American. I'd even venture a guess that only the far left fringe feels this way - and even that would (hopefully) be a small percentage.

    Yeesh - the thought of capping profits is blatantly offensive to me.

    On the other hand, I do believe that the larger corporations should be taxed fairly and proportionately.

    By the way, please call it the Democratic Party. "Democrat" Party is actually considered somewhat pejorative. And, at least to me, it sounds a little redneck/backwoodsey. And not the endearing kind of redneck/backwoodsey.
  8. ugahairydawgs macrumors 68030


    Jun 10, 2010
    Jealousy is not a good excuse for hatred. Just because one person isn't as successful as he or she thought they would be is not a good enough reason to dispise the monetary gain from someone who was.
  9. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    I condemned the practice when it was used on on conservatives in this thread.

    It isn't hard to find idiots.

    Editing them together to paint an irrational portrait of either side is wrong.

    I can only hope you agree.
  10. Huntn macrumors P6


    May 5, 2008
    The Misty Mountains
    Wall Street barons shuffle money around and make themselves rich arguably to the detriment of the country. Do they create anything? Should they be unleashed to maximize the good they give themselves? Should they deserve to be rich beyond what most of us consider to be our wildest dreams? The goal of a good and just society is to shave off the extremes at both ends of the fiscal spectrum and raise the middle.

    I've said in these forums before that individual earnings should be capped at $1 million a year max. And no, I don't think Capitalism would work well with that restriction. I'll let you put 2 and 2 together. ;)

    Just remember I'm approaching this from a philosophical perspective, not a realistic one, in that I don't have an economic background, that I can make a grounded financial argument for it. This position comes simply from the notion of how much do you need to live a good life? Most people manage to get by with $50k or less and still might describe life as good. ;)
  11. thekev macrumors 604


    Aug 5, 2010
    Media vultures prey on people like that. In half of those examples, he's feeding them lines. This is the kind of trash journalism I ignore regardless of its source.
  12. thewitt macrumors 68020


    Sep 13, 2011
    This says it ll.

    The Democrat Party philosophy of division and hate permeates the faithful, who are taught to believe that anyone or any company who are successful, somehow did so by taking advantage of someone else.

    Read Karl Marx and you will see exactly where the current crop of party leadership are coming from.

    How many Democrats here really understand that you are borderline Marxists? Read him before commenting out of ignorance, as you will find your party's goals and his to be aligned.
  13. applesith macrumors 68030


    Jun 11, 2007
    America has an underdog complex. Always route for the little guy against the big guy and then tear them down when they make it. Just look at Apple. They used to be the more hipster kinda company that was cool to like because it wsn't big as other tech companies. Now everyone takes shots at it being a patent troll or slave drivers.

    In a nut shell: Work hard and be successful, just not too successful.
  14. TPadden macrumors 6502a

    Oct 28, 2010
    PLENTY of lotto's in the $27 mil neighborhood :eek:.

    "The March 25, 2011, Mega Millions jackpot got bumped up to $312 million, but how big is that all-time?

    According to official reports, it's the sixth biggest Mega Millions prize ever, and the 12th biggest ever for any U.S. lottery.

    If no one hits it, history is a good bet to be made. The record $390 million jackpot of March 2007 soared from the previous drawing's $275 million."

  15. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    Even monkeys believe in social order.

    Somewhere along the line, you forgot what brought you here.
  16. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040


    Jan 14, 2002
    South Dakota, USA
    I'm pretty certain that he edited out any common sense answers. Capping or making profits illegal would pretty much wipe out privately owned business in a country. It's sure not going to drive innovation, new ideas or competition.

    Remember many businesses have operated at a loss sometime in their history or are losing today. If you outlawed them from making a profit how in the world could they ever turn around? There is no way the people in the video actually thought this through and if they did their position is laughable at best.

    I say let a business make all the profit they want as long as they pay their fair share in taxes. That's the best way to keep business strong and still have some of that money returned to support the country.
  17. Heilage macrumors 68030


    May 1, 2009
    I suggest you read some Marx, or at least some modern Socialist theory. The US Democratic Party are so way off Socialism/Communism that it's not even funny.

    Imagine, in my country, I'm a conservative. I'm a member of a right-wing party and all. Luckily, we apply common sense and no religion in our politics.

    Even our left wing, like our Labor Party, who are far left of us, and sometimes have politicians who say some borderline socialist things, aren't proper socialists.

    To suggest that the US Democratic Party is socialist, or even borderline, is to suggest that the GOP are fascists, or maybe even nazis. That, for all their faults and stupid policies, they are not.
  18. Iscariot macrumors 68030


    Aug 16, 2007
    I'm sure the percentage of people attending the DNC who believe utterly absurd things is far higher than it has any right to be. The public education you receive in America will be abysmal irrespective of your political bent.
  19. niuniu macrumors 68020


    Mar 29, 2009
    A man of the people. The right sort of people.
    The literal meaning of the question is at odds with their interpretation of it. It's a cheap interview trick that works under pressure.

    You can find more of these techniques in advocacy manuals

    I'm only surprised so many in the thread actually found it convincing enough to comment on:confused:

    When these people are responding they're thinking along the lines of doing something about corporate greed.

    If that's the worst you can do at a Democrat convention, I'd be rather proud if I was an American Democrat. By comparison, hit up a Republican convention and you find some of the lowest forms of life on the planet.
  20. q64ceo macrumors regular

    Aug 13, 2010
    You find the lowest forms of life in every group. To ignore such a fact is to blind yourself in loyal partisanship to your team.
  21. niuniu macrumors 68020


    Mar 29, 2009
    A man of the people. The right sort of people.
    Trust me, Democrats are certainly not my team.

    Where were all the birthers, racists and bigots openly and proudly displaying it in view of the world? The difference between the Republican and Democrat voter base is night and day.

    Everyone can see it, but of course anyone is free to deny it.
  22. .Andy macrumors 68030


    Jul 18, 2004
    The Mergui Archipelago
    "But I'll post it anyway to maintain a high standard of discussion in PRSI"
  23. TPadden, Sep 7, 2012
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2012

    TPadden macrumors 6502a

    Oct 28, 2010
    Only true Liberals would see nothing wrong with belittling intellectually those who innocently use the term Democrat while completely glossing over the insulting use of the terms redneck and backwoodsey. :rolleyes:

    You prove your Basic English competence by stating you're sick of the English language??????? :D:D:D
  24. k995 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 23, 2010
    And what would that difference be?

    Btw if romney says " "no one's ever asked to see my birth certificate." even as an attempt at a joke , its clearly alive in that party. And sorry for anyone that uses even a fraction of his brain the birther issue is completly ridiculous.
  25. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003

    Sounds like something one would expect from one of these trash videos. Carry on. :rolleyes:

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