This thread is inspired by this article about the recent disgraceful plan by the Australian government to introduce chaplains into state schools. They talk vaguely about "values" but as far as I can see religious values are useless outside of a specific religion. As far as I can tell, all that seems to be necessary to live an ethical and moral life are the common sense values that all individuals commonly sense. These values do not have to be taught. The value of these values may need to be taught, but not the values themselves. I'm talking about values that are based on how we all wish to be treated. For example no one wants to be lied to, robbed, cheated or to have their property stolen and we are all well aware that others wish to be treated the same way. Of course various religions have appropriated these common sense values into their own religious structure to give their religious values more creedence. So while we may need to be taught the value of not lying, that is "what do I get out of it", we do not need to be taught that we don't wish to be lied to. So as it says on the packet...What religious values (in this particular case, Christian) are valuable to non religious persons?