What will #45 do when Muller interviews Kushner or DT Jr?

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  1. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    What will #45 do when Muller interviews Kushner or DT Jr?

    Hope Hicks resigns and Kushner looses is Top level security status.
    #45 blasts tweets a 25% Tariff on all imported steel and 10% on Aluminum (much to shock and panic of Republicans who see this crippling blow to their agenda).

    Remember when #45 tweeted he will move embassy to Jerusalem after the Muller investigation got Manafort to sequel?

    As Muller gets closer to #45, the more unwanted executive orders he issues.

    And yes, I am now calling him #45, since he LOVES saying he is the 45th president.
    Even writes it on his shirt cuffs.
     
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    He will tweet. Probably say he barely knows Jared and only put up with him because Ivanka liked him. As for DT Jr, he will start a war with N. Korea.
     
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    They will become low level unpaid volunteers who he barely knew. If that fails you are probably right he will start a war to distract.
     
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    Seems like everyone is resigned to #45's antics. Not much activity in this room.
     
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    I'm just ready for "him" to be over...
    It's beyond embarrassing
     
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    You have only just started the #45 roller coaster. Puts all other roller coasters to shame, and one does not know if the bolts are tight.

    So, Twin Otters??
     
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    Turbo Beaver actually
     
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    Close, still de Havilland products. :cool:
     
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    He'll throw Kushner under the bus. Probably protect Jr. Or, in a surprise twist, throw all his children and Jared under the bus.
     
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    He ran his campaign on reigning in bad trade deals, promised to relocate to Jerusalem (Obama promised this as well and failed to deliver), and wreck Obama's paper legacy. You are basically saying he is fulfilling campaign promises as Mueller continues his investigation.
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    Under the bus for what? Meeting with a person of Russian nationality isn't illegal, in fact, I do it quite often. Chinese too.
     
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    Doing it with the intention of doing something illegal, however, is a problem. From the moment you do it, you're at the mercy of the power that "helped" you. What if (and this is hypothetical, although it's an admitted fact that there have been meetings with Russian agents) Putin has tapes of Russian spies offering help to DT or anyone in his family and them accepting the help? Yes, it would be entrapment (which I wouldn't put it past Putin!) but the fact remains that then they are between a rock (doing as told against the interest of the US, ie: treason) and a hard place (facing serious criminal charges). They either do as told, or they are at the mercy of Putin deciding to actually saying "yes, it's all true, and here's the proof".

    One way or the other, by merely falling into the entrapment because of their ignorance/incompetence/inexperience, Putin has already won.
     
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    There is a good way (achieving goals that nearly all players are content with), and an idiotic way (creating anger and retaliation, causing massive uncertainty in supply chain).

    Jerusalem was a prize to Israel for agreeing to some Palestinian solution. It was a key political bargaining chip. #45 gave Israel a MASSIVE gift, at a massive cost to the USA because we have to pay for the move, the increased security for the location, and puts Americans in greater danger from the increased tensions.
     
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    He ran on it, he delivered it. Boom.
     
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    How much of your money you want to give #45?
    Or rather give to the US Gov being directed by him.
     
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    As much my taxes say I'm liable for, depends how good of a year I've had.
     
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    Heh, give Mueller a little more time... every time some shoe drops off that investigation, PRSI lights up over how it doesn't mean anything or else it's the end of the world as we know it. :D

    I'm not resigned to the antics of this administration. I'm thinking of writing my relatively moderate GOP Congressman to suggest he should consider switching parties. The district is purple. He should bail from the GOP and become a blue dog Democrat, take on the progressive Dem probably going to face him this fall. He'd win because the district's still conservative even if slowly moving anti-Trump (because Trump's no conservative).

    I think #45 Fatigue is setting in. Too much ruckus. Country's happier when the President's antics are not on page one above the fold in local newspapers. We'd rather read about the new diner opening up on Maple Street. Trump would rather be on Page One. News flash: that's a conflict of interest and the customers are always right. But the editors can't fix this problem. Trump has to become more Presidential and less controversial and he can't do it.
     
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    Meanwhile some members of this forum want to dismiss everything as either a nothing burger or not important when there are bigger issues. At what point to the multitude of little things indicate to them that there is, indeed, a problem.

    One mosquito bite isn't a big deal and you can likely ignore it. When you start getting 10, 20, 50 all at the same time - you have to treat it.
     
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    It''s not just the drip drip drip of little things on the investigative fronts either.

    Sure, having the pressure of not knowing exactly who's under investigation, and for what, is one thing and a force that undermines day to day functionality. The pace of the craziness in that White House would be picking up anyway though, with the departure of a guy like Gary Cohn leaving economic policy up for grabs in the West Wing, and a Trump "interpreter" like Hope Hicks no longer buffering staffers there from outbursts on Trump's part.

    The influences towards stability and at least some pretense towards inter-party civility fall away as self-preserving behavior takes over. Conway's another one who might be headed for the doors, even if her Hatch Act violations don't provide the push.

    On policy there are mostly nationalist advisors and Trump loyalist agency picks left in there now. Their ideas clash more with those of Congressional leaders, whose agendas are driven with one eye on Trump's base but the other one parked on their big donors.

    As the elections approach, donors get the nod over fringe ideas like throwing a trade war to "make America great again." Trump's policy tweets are still aimed at his supporters. The ones on trade are right up their alley but with Cohn's exit, those same tweets seem more alarming to the markets.

    So on the one hand Trump can make jokes about his remaining array of advisors and presumed defenders, like he did the other night at the Gridiron dinner,

    “So many people have been leaving the White House,” he said. “It’s invigorating, since you want turnover. I like chaos. It really is good. Who’s going to be the next to leave? Steve Miller, or Melania?”
    but on the other hand surrounding himself with loyalists on policy issues narrows his political appeal overall, since his own policies (except for trade) are pretty malleable and his advisors have their own agendas. And, joke as he might, even his remaining inner circle is pretty stressed these days, never mind whether their policy suggestions are appropriate for the country. Good he likes chaos, he's getting it. But he's wrong about how "it's really good". It's wearing on the crew that's left in there and they were never up to speed on running a government anyway.

    It all starts to feel like a pretty dicey arrangement for the top of an entire branch of our government. I expect the Congress to take more of a lead as time goes on now, even if their next move is not to throw up hands and install Pence (since the polls still don't suggest that's politically feasible).
     
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    ...pop.

    Hope Hicks observation, she resigned not because she told lies, her Trump White House crime was admitting she told lies, even if they were little white ones. :oops:
     
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    When the dam brakes and they are under it.

    History has plenty of examples of the dire, deadly consequences of those who support insane leaders.
    Despite centuries of history and easy to find information (wiki for example), many would sacrifice their lives to follow irrational leaders instead of recognizing the emperor has no cloths.
     

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