What will the OLED iPhone 8 have over the Samsung Galaxy 8+?

[Starfyre]

One of the things I am the most stoked about the iPhone 8, is the near bezel-less display. Radically different in design, radiant, I could go on and on! I was so excited until I saw my friends phone that I thought was an iPhone 8 for a fraction of a second, but later was told it was a Samsung Galaxy S8 Plus!

http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-s8/

This is the first time I've been to this website, and I look at this and think to myself... InfinityEdge display... this is.. like what the iPhone 8 is supposed to/going to be for it's "more expensive release model"? Feeling the phone in the hand and interacting with the screen, I was seriously impressed with the display, much moreso than my current iPhone. I now think to myself, if the iPhone 8 is releasing soon and it does not meet and exceed expectations, this Samsung Galaxy phone is actually a viable alternative!

Now here is the question... what will the iPhone 8 have over the Samsung Galaxy 8 Plus? Someone help me get excited about the iPhone 8 so I can stop dreaming about how this Samsung phone looks almost perfect (not liking the fingerprint sensor on the back). Help me with kindling I need to be excited for the new iPhone!

 

[more fps]

For one thing you wouldn't need to worry about dealing with fingerprint sensor lol

 

[ultravisitor]

It won't have Shamsung's gross Android-ruining software.

 

[Puonti]

Now here is the question... what will the iPhone 8 have over the Samsung Galaxy 8 Plus? Someone help me get excited about the iPhone 8 so I can stop dreaming about how this Samsung phone looks almost perfect (not liking the fingerprint sensor on the back). Help me with kindling I need to be excited for the new iPhone!

This is just my opinion of course, but I think you're looking for the wrong answer here.

If you're the kind of person who needs to get excited about technology in order to buy it, then the flipside is that you buy things because you're excited about them. You make impulsive, emotional decisions rather than considering what's actually going to work for your day-to-day needs and fit your financial situation. Sure, anyone can feel excitement about a thing they end up buying and that's not wrong, but if excitement's the primary reason for that purchase - as it seems to be here, since you can't seem to decide between two products from a rational point of view and you're not offering us any examples of what it is you do with your phone, you just want to get excited - then we're just feeding your problem rather than helping you.

Since we're not you, and especially since you're looking for emotional reasons to pick one over the other, I doubt we can help you make a good decision. It's notoriously difficult to do even when someone's trying to make a reasoned, well thought-out decision. You might feel like you're getting good advice; someone validates your feelings, you feel pumped for one item over the other and you go buy it as soon as you can. After the initial euphoria wears off, you start seeing the flaws of your choice, perhaps aided by dissenting opinions from your peers or just random people on a forum and - being impulsive - look at the option you passed on and how that has cool things and how you should have bought that instead and oh wait there's this other new product coming out and man that's cool and why did I get this janky thing and... you get my point.

Maybe you don't care about any of that, though. It's just my opinion and it's inconvenient. Then again, you are asking for opinions on a discussion forum, from total strangers. You're going to get what feels to you like good advice and you're going to get advice that absolutely must be bad because it sounds so foreign to you and besides, completely misses the point of your original question.

I know this isn't going to excite you either, but here's what I'd say if I completely disregarded everything above:

If your phone is just a source of entertainment for you, then really, just get either one. The Netflixes and Snapchats of this world are available for both platforms.

If you're trying to impress your friends, you need to get what they have. It's going to get expensive if they're impulsive buyers, too.

If you can't wait, get the Galaxy 8+.

If you can wait, get the newest iPhone when it becomes available.

If you enjoy how one operating system (iOS / Android) does things compared to the other, then get the phone that has your operating system of choice.

If you value the privacy and security of your information, go for the iPhone. Sure, you might still make a bad decision and someone might still upload your contacts list somewhere you might not want it because you just wanted people to tell you their honest opinion about you and didn't think twice about an app asking for permission to your contacts (https://thehackernews.com/2017/08/sarahah-privacy.html), but at least it's you making the decision to let it do that, instead of the app just doing it in the background without asking you if it's ok.

 

[44267547]

For one thing you wouldn't need to worry about dealing with fingerprint sensor lol

I think of Apple did put the fingerprint sensor on the back, which we know they are not. I think it would definitely be a completely different experience and it never occurred to me that Apple was ever going to consider that as an option in the first place. This company always impresses me how intelligent they are and clever in making The user experience better, even if some Don't agree with the changes Apple makes.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I think the simple answer is iOS. From the leaks so far in terms of hardware it is not bringing anything we haven't seen before. We'll have to wait for the launch to see if this is incorrect.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think the simple answer is iOS. From the leaks so far in terms of hardware it is not bringing anything we haven't seen before. We'll have to wait for the launch to see if this is incorrect.

This is it in a nutshell.

 

[akash.nu]

This is just my opinion of course, but I think you're looking for the wrong answer here.

If you're the kind of person who needs to get excited about technology in order to buy it, then the flipside is that you buy things because you're excited about them. You make impulsive, emotional decisions rather than considering what's actually going to work for your day-to-day needs and fit your financial situation. Sure, anyone can feel excitement about a thing they end up buying and that's not wrong, but if excitement's the primary reason for that purchase - as it seems to be here, since you can't seem to decide between two products from a rational point of view and you're not offering us any examples of what it is you do with your phone, you just want to get excited - then we're just feeding your problem rather than helping you.

Since we're not you, and especially since you're looking for emotional reasons to pick one over the other, I doubt we can help you make a good decision. It's notoriously difficult to do even when someone's trying to make a reasoned, well thought-out decision. You might feel like you're getting good advice; someone validates your feelings, you feel pumped for one item over the other and you go buy it as soon as you can. After the initial euphoria wears off, you start seeing the flaws of your choice, perhaps aided by dissenting opinions from your peers or just random people on a forum and - being impulsive - look at the option you passed on and how that has cool things and how you should have bought that instead and oh wait there's this other new product coming out and man that's cool and why did I get this janky thing and... you get my point.

Maybe you don't care about any of that, though. It's just my opinion and it's inconvenient. Then again, you are asking for opinions on a discussion forum, from total strangers. You're going to get what feels to you like good advice and you're going to get advice that absolutely must be bad because it sounds so foreign to you and besides, completely misses the point of your original question.

I know this isn't going to excite you either, but here's what I'd say if I completely disregarded everything above:

If your phone is just a source of entertainment for you, then really, just get either one. The Netflixes and Snapchats of this world are available for both platforms.

If you're trying to impress your friends, you need to get what they have. It's going to get expensive if they're impulsive buyers, too.

If you can't wait, get the Galaxy 8+.

If you can wait, get the newest iPhone when it becomes available.

If you enjoy how one operating system (iOS / Android) does things compared to the other, then get the phone that has your operating system of choice.

If you value the privacy and security of your information, go for the iPhone. Sure, you might still make a bad decision and someone might still upload your contacts list somewhere you might not want it because you just wanted people to tell you their honest opinion about you and didn't think twice about an app asking for permission to your contacts (https://thehackernews.com/2017/08/sarahah-privacy.html), but at least it's you making the decision to let it do that, instead of the app just doing it in the background without asking you if it's ok.

Couldn't have put it better. Well said.

 

[Newtons Apple]

Looks do not matter but having iOS does. The S8 is not even a distant consideration.

 

[SwissGuy93]

I have read a few "x-months later Reviews" of the Samsung S8 and all have stated, that the software is already lagging. You will get a flashy new exterior but let's be honest here for a second; The OS may have a fresh look to it but at the end it's still not nearly as polished and good as iOS. Sh*t coated in glitter is still sh*t.

Don't get fooled by a shiny new design (even though I am still mad that they call the S8 a new design (it's practically the same design since the S6 but with slimmer top and bottom bezels, where the iPhone 8 will be a radical new design)) because at the end of the day it's not the design that matters, it much more the integration between software and hardware. And there is no other phone which better represents that than the iPhone.


What you presumably will get with the iPhone 8 is a new authentication system. One that only requires you to look at your phone. The whole Face-scanning / iris-scanning thing from Samsung will not compare in no way, shape or form. We are talking about something that can be used in the dark, off-angles etc. Something that will be more secure than Touch ID.

The camera will presumably also feature depth detection with lasers. This feature will be, together with Apple's new facial recognition, years ahead of Qualcomm or other chip makers.

Now, on to the screen; the Samsung S8 has a good screen, no doubt. But for me the colors always seem a bit artificial. I expect the screen of the iPhone to be mind-blowing. They are currently on a streak with screens. The new iPad Pro and 5K iMac displays are something else. They. Are. Phenomenal.

And I think, now that Apple has pushed wide-color gamut to every device, that the iPhone 8 will also feature a wide-color gamut. I am no expert in OLED, so I am not even sure if that is something that can be achieved, but I guess Apple will stick to wide-color gamut as they really are pushing it since last year.

One thing that has been talked about but not enough to really pin-point this; The neural engine. According to some reports the iPhone 8 will feature a third "processor". There will be A11+M11 and then this new AI-Chip which would handle all AI-tasks. Apple has stated in the past that they currently use the CPU for AI stuff but I think there is a possibility for them to have a dedicated chip. This would allow Apple to have some kind of offline Siri. This would also coincide with their promise of privacy. Having everything on your device and not relying on Apple's Servers anymore.


That is the feature set I expect to see on the 12 September. Of course, what it boils down to is; How invested are you in the Apple Ecosystem? Do you have any other Apple devices? Do you want to buy an Apple Watch? Etc.

However, we are soooo close to the release, that I would recommend you to wait a bit longer. The S8 will still be around after the Keynote.

 

[entropi]

Looks do not matter but having iOS does. The S8 is not even a distant consideration.

True. But it is weird that S8 looks better than the dummy iP8... (the top sensor bar) I hope they make it to be a black line...

 

[Newtons Apple]

True. But it is weird that S8 looks better than the dummy iP8... (the top sensor bar) I hope they make it to be a black line...

Like I said looks matter not to me, how it works does.

 

[TheIgster]

It won't have Shamsung's gross Android-ruining software.

I have the S7 Edge and completely disagree with this. Touchwiz used to suck. It does not any longer. I use most of the built-in Samsung apps like their Music app and love the looks and use of it. The Samsung theme store is awesome to change the looks and feel of your phone as well. I have a license for Nova Launcher Pro and still use the built-in OS on my S7 because it works and looks great. Years ago with Touchwiz, you couldn't say that but I think that comment is way off base now.

 

[9081094]

The thing the iPhone 8 has over the S8 is price and brand.

 

[DNichter]

iOS, better security, better ecosystem, better apps, better support, A11 chip (iPhone 7 still beats Note in performance, better screen (OLED, but properly calibrated and ProMotion, maybe wide color gamut and all that), better camera, 3D facial recognition (first in a smart phone), and better build quality. I am sure there is more, but those are what I see.

 

[9081094]

iOS, better security, better ecosystem, better apps, better support, A11 chip (iPhone 7 still beats Note in performance, better screen (OLED, but properly calibrated and ProMotion, maybe wide color gamut and all that), better camera, 3D facial recognition (first in a smart phone), and better build quality. I am sure there is more, but those are what I see.

Correction, the note is faster than iPhone 7 plus. See YouTube. Better apps? Google maps, google now and everything google beats Apple these days. If Apple was only using a bit more of its profits for future investments and not so greedy on margins we should have a much nicer phone.

 

[DNichter]

Correction, the note is faster than iPhone 7 plus. See YouTube. Better apps? Google maps, google now and everything google beats Apple these days. If Apple was only using a bit more of its profits for future investments and not so greedy on margins we should have a much nicer phone.

I have and I have seen otherwise. It’s funny that the Note is even close compared to a year old phone. Yes, much better app ecosystem because people actually buy apps on iOS. Developers prefer iOS. Hugely important. I guess that’s all you got? Isn’t the Note around the same price as the new iPhone? Easy choice all day.

 

[I7guy]

Correction, the note is faster than iPhone 7 plus. See YouTube. Better apps? Google maps, google now and everything google beats Apple these days. If Apple was only using a bit more of its profits for future investments and not so greedy on margins we should have a much nicer phone.

IMO, Apple maps is better than google maps, apples iCloud is better than googles equivalent. iOS apps are more refined than google apps. And subjectively iPhones are the winner in phone race in my family. So here we go.

 

[justinf77]

I have the S7 Edge and completely disagree with this. Touchwiz used to suck. It does not any longer. I use most of the built-in Samsung apps like their Music app and love the looks and use of it. The Samsung theme store is awesome to change the looks and feel of your phone as well. I have a license for Nova Launcher Pro and still use the built-in OS on my S7 because it works and looks great. Years ago with Touchwiz, you couldn't say that but I think that comment is way off base now.

I had the S7 Edge as well and even though I loved the phone overall, there was definitely more lag compared to iOS and even the Nexus 6P I also had at the time. Don't get me wrong, it's a great phone, but once you're used to the fluidity of iOS or stock Android then it's much easier to notice how Samsung's software gets in the way. Even something as simple as selecting and scrolling through messages in the Gmail app would show lagginess and frame skips.

It's definitely not as bad as it used to be, but there's still absolutely a performance difference.

 

[9594864]

•Promotion
•Facial recognition that isn't tricked by a picture
•N1 chip (neural engine)?
•Taptic Engine 3?
•Better aspect ratio (less than 2.5/1)
•Weighs less
•Shorter
•More screen space used due to better idea with virtual home Button functionality
•Superior screen/face ratio
•Instantaneous, error-free security method
•No fingerprint scanner on the back
•Superior dual OIS
•Bokeh selfies

 

[Phil A.]

I have read a few "x-months later Reviews" of the Samsung S8 and all have stated, that the software is already lagging.

I must be the exception then because my launch day S8 is still as smooth and quick as it was the day I got it

To be honest, for me the iPhone 8 came too late: I'm loving my S8 and have no intention of swapping it for the next iPhone. Maybe in a few years I'll come back to iOS for my phones (I've got a 10.5 iPad Pro and I'm looking forward to what iOS 11 will bring), but for now I'm more than happy with a foot in the Android camp!

 

[AfroAbel]

•Promotion
•Facial recognition that isn't tricked by a picture
•N1 chip (neural engine)?
•Taptic Engine 3?
•Better aspect ration (less than 2.5/1)
•Weighs less
•Shorter
•More screen space used due to better idea with virtual home Button functionality
•Superior screen/face ratio
•Instantaneous, error-free security method
•No fingerprint scanner on the back
•Superior dual OIS
•Bokeh selfies

Adding to the list:

4K 60Fps video on both the front and rear camera
no android
A11 chip (with an unbeatable singe core performance)

 

[TheIgster]

I had the S7 Edge as well and even though I loved the phone overall, there was definitely more lag compared to iOS and even the Nexus 6P I also had at the time. Don't get me wrong, it's a great phone, but once you're used to the fluidity of iOS or stock Android then it's much easier to notice how Samsung's software gets in the way. Even something as simple as selecting and scrolling through messages in the Gmail app would show lagginess and frame skips.

It's definitely not as bad as it used to be, but there's still absolutely a performance difference.

Well, this is not really what the thread is about, but I ditched the 6P for the S7 Edge. I hated the 6P and the battery life was brutal. I also find stock Android boring. Much prefer the look and feel of the S7 Edge.

I'm thinking about giving iOS a try, but if the new iPhone Edition does indeed have that cutout on top, then I think I'm sticking with Android. Just thought it would be fun to try the other side for a while. That's why I came here.

 

[justinf77]

Well, this is not really what the thread is about, but I ditched the 6P for the S7 Edge. I hated the 6P and the battery life was brutal. I also find stock Android boring. Much prefer the look and feel of the S7 Edge.

I'm thinking about giving iOS a try, but if the new iPhone Edition does indeed have that cutout on top, then I think I'm sticking with Android. Just thought it would be fun to try the other side for a while. That's why I came here.

I do think this is on topic for the thread because we're talking about what advantages the iPhone will have over the S8, and fluid performance is a huge advantage. Not sure if the S8 has better performance than the S7 in terms of software, though.

I totally agree with you about the 6P, and I ditched it as well because I hated the form factor. The S7 Edge was by far the nicest phone I've had in terms of hardware. And there was a LOT I liked about Android too, so I'm still always keeping up to date about what's going on in the world of Android and the Pixel is the phone that excites me the most on that side because of smooth performance and software updates.

 

[penajmz]

iOS.

Enough said.