When is LTE useful?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Johnny Steps, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. Johnny Steps macrumors 6502

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    When I was changing from Sprint to AT&T three days ago I'm not gonna lie. I was somewhat tempted to get an Android phone for the reason that, since I'm gonna have good service, 4G LTE would actually be usable. I would've probably gone with Verizon since they were offering the whole 4GB plan for $30 for 4G enabled smartphones only.

    But then I remembered how much of a battery killer it was and with an iPhone 4S and HSPA+ it's still gonna be fast.

    Obviously I'm tied to a 2 year contract with now and won't be upgrading anytime soon.. and supposing the iPhone 5 has LTE capabilities.. do you think people like me would be missing out on that feature?
     
  2. TG1 macrumors 6502a

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    It's great for streaming video services like video chatting, Netflix, and YouTube in high quality. Everything else is super snappy too (apps, browsing, etc.). That being said, I don't need it for everything so I use it on an on-demand basis when I need it.
     
  3. Johnny Steps thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Streaming is probably good for unlimited users though.

    How much does netflix cost? Like if I saw one episode of 30 rock on the go? Like 100 mb right?
     
  4. lordofthereef macrumors G5

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    IMO it will be useful up until the point that the network become congested. How many people are hitting theoretical 3G speeds? Very few. Right now, there are only a small fraction of people on 4G networks when compared to 3G. The same things were said about 3G "it's so fast, yadda yadda". Those will be reduced. Not to nothing, obviously, but I doubt we will sustain 20 megabit during peak hours like many or getting on LTE now. It's great for streaming, and probably always will be. I don't see it being leaps and bounds ahead of 3G technology in the way that 3G was leaps and bounds ahead of 2G tech.
     
  5. DeepIn2U macrumors 68040

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    it's useful ONLY when the battery technology in smartphones can use LTE bandwidth wants/needs by end users over the course of a 3hr stream.

    Right now using USB Rocket Sticks is the only real use of it.
    I'm very impressed by the speeds that the LG Optimus LTE (AT&T Nitro in the USA) has in comparison to the Samsung Galaxy SII LTE model.

    note that the Optimus LTE (Bell Mobility in Canada supports both: 1700 & 700Mhz) where the AT&T Nitro only supports the 1700mhz LTE band.
     
  6. Johnny Steps thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Well all that makes sense. But like I said, you guys talk about streaming video and such, what's the point if people are limited in data or throttled if they over use it? It seems 4G is only good for that burst of speed you need at a moment's notice.
     
  7. cynics macrumors G3

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    I love it as I have a 4g tablet which has a massive battery anyway. For a phone I think HSPA+ is good enough, if you don't plan on using the hotspot feature as a dedicated home wifi setup.

    Really for all I'm concerned when I'm on my phone anything better then 1 mbs down is enough to do what I need even Netflix streaming. Problem with Verizon is its not uncommon to have .50 mbs down or less on their 3g network. So if you aren't in an LTE area you are stuck with Busch league speeds.

    I think with what is available today with LTE technology and coverage area you made a good choice.
     
  8. TG1 macrumors 6502a

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    Agree with the issue of data caps making utilizing LTE more difficult. That's one of the reasons I jumped on Verizon's double data promotion. 4 gb (for the price of 2) is just right for me. :thumbup:
     
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  10. cynics macrumors G3

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    I agree with Johny steps for the most part. Its not about being able to download entire movies to the device. Its more about near instant loading of data. You'll often find me starring at my iPhone saying "come on and load already!". Lol
     
  11. megapopular macrumors 6502a

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    Which 4G tablet do you have?
     
  12. cynics macrumors G3

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    Xoom. I love it, on it now actually. It works great for me cause I have a work provided iPhone 4s from Verizon. The Verizon version can't do data and talk at the same time. Since I drive all day I keep the tablet on as a wifi hotspot. So I'll get 20-70 mbs down, can talk and use data, saves battery, plus its like a 3g unrestricter so I can face time when I'm out. Matter of fact the Xoom has a pretty powerful radio, I've been able to park infront of a wawa and face time from inside the store lol. Or drive and face time.
     
  13. Maverick713 macrumors 6502

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    Verizon LTE is currently Data only
     
  14. Looon macrumors 6502a

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    It's useful for using your 2gb limit up extremely fast.
     
  15. Spectrum Abuser macrumors 65816

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    There is no 2GB(LTE) limit on any carrier in the US anymore unless you've been grandfathered in. And the only one still offering a 2GB(3G) capped plan is Verizon.
     
  16. rjohnstone macrumors 68040

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    No carrier in the world uses LTE for voice.
    They just figured out how to do the hand off from LTE to GSM last month.
    It will be awhile before any carrier or device will support it.
     
  17. takeshi74 macrumors 601

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    What does "people like you" mean? You've provided no info on your specific needs/wants. If you value speed then you will be missing out. If you don't then you won't.
     
  18. mantan macrumors 68000

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    For now...but when an LTE capable iPhone hits the market, all bets are off. There is no way any carrier is dropping tens of millions iPhone users itching to stream HD video without data caps in place....
     
  19. sentinelsx macrumors 68010

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    LTE will be useful when we get minimum 50-60 GB of data cap. Checking facebook or the weather 2 seconds faster doesn't warrant paying for the service, at least not here in Canada. At least people using Sprint in the US might enjoy their unlimited LTE after all.
     
  20. sentinelsx macrumors 68010

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    Because VoLTE will be an expensive upgrade and many carriers are using an in-between solution which allows the phones to fall back on existing network for voice during calls. Hopefully in the future they will all upgrade.
     
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    LTE is useful when one can acquire a 4g signal. The US Verizon 4g coverage map is pretty sparse, with the exception of major metro areas.
     
  22. rjohnstone macrumors 68040

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    VoLTE is not the issue.
    The issue is handing off the call to a WCDMA based tower when you leave a VoLTE area.

    Ericsson and Qualcomm just figured out how to do it.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/02/idUS139559+02-Feb-2012+HUG20120202

    The upgrade will be required on both the handset and the carrier.
     
  23. sentinelsx macrumors 68010

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    Of course the upgrade will be required on both. I was merely mentioning that carriers have LTE as strictly data only and no voice. You need to switch back to WCDMA/CDMA for voice. With VoLTE later this year you will no longer need the switch but it will require both network and phone upgrades.
     
  24. maril1111 macrumors 68000

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    these 3 are pretty much the main reason, although listening to hq audio can be added to the list as well. And another reason is if we can why not!
     
  25. rgarjr macrumors 603

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    LTE is useful when:

    • They have 10,20,30 GB plans
    • They don't throttle unlimited data users at 2GB
    • You are able to tether if you wish on any plan
     

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