Which monitor to buy? (Dell)

Discussion in 'Buying Tips and Advice' started by karatekidk, Mar 22, 2009.

  1. karatekidk macrumors regular

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    I have been looking for an external monitor to go with my PB 12" 1.5ghz. If I got one, I'd watch movies, possibly watch tv, edit photos. I am a newsletter editor for a local community, so a big monitor would be great for productivity, too.

    I have read many posts on here and have been looking at Dell 2209WA (somewhere around $250, I believe). I also found an ad for a Dell 2407wfp (Rev04) on local craigslist. I have been in touch with the owner via e-mail. According to the original owner, it's been lightly used and is in A+ condition. He wants $300 for it.

    I know 2407wfp is a bit bigger (24" vs 22") and has better resolution (1920X1200 vs. 1680X1050), but that's about it. Now, which is a better choice? Would appreciate your input.
     
  2. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    Depends on your age. At some point in your life you will want a monitor with bigger pixels (typically the 19", 22", 26" models) because it is easier to read. I wouldn't concentrate on Dell only. Check out Samsung, Viewsonic etc. Most important, if this is a PB 12" then check very carefully what resolution it supports before you buy.
     
  3. karatekidk thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks for the comment. I'm pushing 40 and find myself constantly bending over to read things on the 12" screen, and newsletter editing has been a pain on the tiny screen.

    According to Everymac.com, "The maximum resolution supported on an external display is 2048x1536 at millions of colors."

    I have been checking Samsung a little, but somehow their model #s are confusing to me.

    Meanwhile, below is the spec of the monitors I am looking at.

    Dell 2209WA
    Connectivity
    Video input typeVGA, DVI
    Display
    Brightness300 cd/m2
    Claimed viewing angle (horizontal)178 degrees
    Claimed viewing angle (vertical)178 degrees
    Contrast ratio1000 :1
    Dot pitch0.282 mm
    Max resolution (pixels)1680 x 1050 pixels
    Monitor size (diagonal)22 inch
    Pixel response time6 ms
    General
    Dimensions (H x W x D)461.91 x 511.77 x 184.12 mm
    Weight7.93 kg


    Dell 2407wfp
    Connectivity
    Video input typeVGA, DVI, S-Video, Composite, Component
    Display
    Brightness450 cd/m2
    Claimed viewing angle (horizontal)178 degrees
    Claimed viewing angle (vertical)178 degrees
    Contrast ratio1000 :1
    Dot pitch0.270 mm
    Max resolution (pixels)1920 x 1200 pixels
    Monitor size (diagonal)24 inch
    Pixel response time16 ms
    General
    Dimensions (H x W x D)560 x 195 x 584 mm
    Weight8.4 kg
     
  4. blackhand1001 macrumors 68030

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    Why the 2407wfp and not the 2408wfp. The 2408wfp has displayport which means that at some point a native mini displayport to displayport could exist. Also the the 2408 got rid of the banding problems that the 2407 suffered from.
     
  5. Fishrrman macrumors G4

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    RE: Which monitor to buy?

    Gnasher wrote:
    "Depends on your age. At some point in your life you will want a monitor with bigger pixels (typically the 19", 22", 26" models) because it is easier to read"

    And karatekidk replied:
    "Thanks for the comment. I'm pushing 40 and find myself constantly bending over to read things on the 12" screen, and newsletter editing has been a pain on the tiny screen"

    I'm 59 (probably on the older side for this forum) and, like you, viewing tiny images and letters on small screens can be problematical.

    The thing you should be concerned about is _pixel size_ or "dot pitch".

    I did some research on pixel sizes for several Dell monitors, and here's what I found:
    SIZE - DOT PITCH (mm) - MODEL (if known)
    24" - .270 - Dell 24"
    22" - .282 - Dell 2209wa
    19" - .294 - Dell 1905fp
    27" - .303 - Dell 2709w

    I currently have a Dell 1905fp with my g4, and a 24" white iMac. The smaller dot pitch of the 24" is acceptable, but I find the 19" Dell considerably easier on my eyes.

    The new Dell 2209wa looks to be "halfway between" the 19" and 24", size-wise insofar as dot pitch goes. It also is one of very few 22" displays to use a higher-quality e-IPV type panel instead of the cheaper "TN" panels. And the price is right - down to around $240 or so (what I paid for this 1905fp about 3 years ago).

    If readability at native resolution is important to you, you might even consider the Dell 2709w. It uses a high-quality panel and I believe it has the same 1680x1050 native resolution as does the Dell 24" display. BUT - because of the higher dot pitch, you won't be squinting. And the price, while higher, is still within reach, about $630 or so.

    - John
     
  6. techound1 macrumors 68000

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    Hey, this has turned into the geriatric thread! :eek::D:D

    I'm surprised your eyeballs (and sanity!) are holding up to the 12" pb, especially doing dtp. I went to a spare monitor when I had my 12" pb and never looked back (interestingly, about the time my odometer rolled past 40). My one regret was getting the 20" display, rather than a 24". The extra real estate really makes a difference, especially with toolbars to stuff everywhere (ala adobe products).

    When you do decide on the model, look around for coupon codes to save some extra bucks - lots of retailers are really offering up the extra savings to get money in the door.
     
  7. karatekidk thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thank you, John. Very interesting point you mentioned. I've never thought about it. By the way, 2709w looks great, but even at $579 (current deal on Dell website), it's a bit out of my budget range...
     
  8. karatekidk thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yeah, after reading a lot of posts on here, I am convinced that the screen size should be at least 22" for me. Thanks for mentioning about coupons. I will do some search.
     
  9. lixuelai macrumors 6502a

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    2709 is 1920x1200 with a PVA panel and 2209 is 1680x1050 with e-IPS.
     
  10. rupnok macrumors member

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    Having owned the 2407WFP-HC for about a year, I'll tell you it suits my needs just fine - resolution is great, no color banding issues, and HDCP support on the DVI input.

    I've sent you a PM as well on differences between 2407WFP, 2407WFP-HC and the 2408.
     
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