White House exempts Syria airstrikes

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    http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-e...t-standards-on-civilian-deaths-183724795.html

    nice way of saying "Meh, those kids & women don't count" .
     
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    Well, to be fair the United States has been killing Iraqis and turning Iraq into rubble for the past 23 years or so, through multiple administrations. The British have been doing it since at least the 1920s. Now it's Syria's opportunity to be rescued by the US/UK coalition.
     
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    Guessing those women & kids killed don't matter since a drone did it:rolleyes:
     
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    Collateral damage.

    Tell ISIS to stop beheading our journalists and thousands of other people and we'll stop bombing their kids.
     
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    do you at all get that these are Syrian women & children? the U.S armed some of the rebels there, now we are bombing the crap out of them & killing civilians in the course of it.
    this is what you are excusing.
     
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    ISIS wanted a war and they got it. And Syria has asked the US for our help in getting rid of ISIS.
     
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    we armed the rebels that are fighting against Syria. great plan by the nobel peace prize winner.
     
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    No we didn't, stop repeating nonsense. We didn't arm ISIS.
     
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    read what I wrote. old but here.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/19/w...sis-bill-avoiding-bigger-war-debate.html?_r=0

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/syria-crisis-obama-requests-500m-train-equip-rebels-n142006

     
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    Obama along with most of congress should be I jail for arming them. Check the link in post 1.
     
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    jail? Don't kid yourself. The criminal justice system is bought and paid for by the same military industrial complex.
     
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    hmmmm, that article is actually about something that happened less than 2 weeks old ago....unlikely it's anything that's even reached any rebel group yet much less paid to "arm rebels that are fighting against Syria" for the last three or so years.....that's not helping you in your claim that you're not repeating nonsense :p
     
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    :doh: wrong links
    here.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama...llow-aid-to-syrian-opposition/article/2535885

     
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    and you promised Skunk you'd try for better! :p
     
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    updated post. try & succeed are 2 different things :kiss:
     
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    Civillian casualties are a given in warfare, over 60,000 french civilians died due to allied bombing alone during WW2.

    IMO there should only be two options:

    A do nothing and leave folks to their own devices

    B intervene fully

    If an issue is big enough that the option of not fighting will result in misery far and above the inevitable civilian casualties of fighting it properly? then it should be fought. To the fullest.

    Likewise if it cant justify the civilian casualties arising from it? then it shouldn't be fought in first place

    Anything in the middle is just BS; a post-WW2 fantasy land of 'precision bombing' 'minimizing civillian casualties' 'limited humanitarian interventions' Sure those are an easy sell to the public, but they've resulted in 50 years and counting of half-assed, half-baked and half-resolved conflicts.
     
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    the M-E is such a mess that we have no greaking business aiding rebels there. we should have left long time ago.
     
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    You don't pause for a moment and consider that doing EXACTLY WHAT A THREAT WANTS YOU TO DO might be a bit a stupid move?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    America can't bring itself to leave the Middle East, because America can't conquer its oil addiction.

    America's vested interest in the Middle East began in the 1930s when the Standard Oil Company discovered great quantities of oil on the eastern shores of Saudi Arabia. When Franklin D. Roosevelt hosted ‘Abd al-‘Aziz Ibn Saud, the founding monarch of Saudi Arabia, aboard the USS Quincy on Egypt’s Great Bitter Lake in February 1945, the Saudis agreed to supply cheap oil to global markets in exchange for American protection.

    Since that meeting, preserving the security of Saudi Arabia, the entire Persian Gulf region, and the free flow of Middle Eastern oil has been one the United States’ chief political-economic concerns. Keeping prices stable and keeping pro-American regimes in power have been central to U.S. strategic policy since that era.

    America's commitment to its relationship with the Middle East has become permanent. Jimmy Carter’s warned during his 1980 state of the union address that the United States would use “any means necessary, including military force” to safeguard its “vital interests” in the Gulf.

    Since Carter, America became more and more involved in the region, and as long as oil remains strategic (and America remains addicted to oil), the U.S. will continue to remain militarily involved in the Middle East.
     
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    That's part of the reason for the war. The other part is the global elites want to get Syria indebted to the petrodollar banking system.
     
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    We love the people of Syria so much that we are willing to bomb them.
     
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    So your defense is, literally, "well, they're doing horrible things first"? Really? So you're okay with us being just as bad of people as the people we're fighting on the basis that they're terrorists and thus the "bad guys"? I just want to make sure we're clear here.
     
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    It's kinda like spanking your child out of love...
     

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