White House Initiative on Educational Excellence

jkcerda

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By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, to restore the country to its role as the global leader in education, to strengthen the Nation by improving educational outcomes for African Americans of all ages, and to help ensure that all African Americans receive an education that properly prepares them for college, productive careers, and satisfying lives, it is hereby ordered as follows
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/26/executive-order-white-house-initiative-educational-excellence-african-am

thought we are all supposed to be EQUAL.
 

NT1440

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Yes.

When one part of the population is clearly lagging behind in all the indicators, you need to do something to get them on equal footing with everyone else. You don't just throw equal resources at everyone and suddenly somehow the disadvantage group is going to be brought up to par.

But you knew this, and are just trying to be facetious, so why bother....
 

jkcerda

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Yes.

When one part of the population is clearly lagging behind in all the indicators, you need to do something to get them on equal footing with everyone else. You don't just throw equal resources at everyone and suddenly somehow the disadvantage group is going to be brought up to par.

But you knew this, and are just trying to be facetious, so why bother....
perhaps the executive order should be directed at the PARENTS. how does keeping a bunch of undisciplined kids, REGARDLESS of race/color/background benefit the rest of the students?
at what point are PARENTS or STUDENTS themselves accountable for their actions?
(iii) decreasing the disproportionate number of referrals of African American children from general education to special education by addressing the root causes of the referrals and eradicating discriminatory referrals;
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/053014_mbk_report.pdf
 During the summer months (June-August) of 2013, just 17% of Black
teenage boys (ages 16-19) and 28% of Hispanic teenage boys were
employed, compared to 34% of White teenage boys. Overall in 2013, half of
young black men (ages 20-24) were employed, compared to over two-thirds of
young white men. This employment gap persists as men get older.
 While only 6% of the overall population, Black males accounted for 43% of
murder victims in 2011.
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Among youth ages 10 to 24, homicide is the leading
cause of death for Black males and also among the leading causes of death for
Hispanics, and AIANs.
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 In 2012, Black males were 6 times more likely to be imprisoned
maybe, just MAYBE some PEOPLE should STOP trying to be in the featured videos of http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ and get their head out of their rear end.
 

NT1440

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perhaps the executive order should be directed at the PARENTS. how does keeping a bunch of undisciplined kids, REGARDLESS of race/color/background benefit the rest of the students?
at what point are PARENTS or STUDENTS themselves accountable for their actions?


http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/053014_mbk_report.pdf


maybe, just MAYBE some PEOPLE should STOP trying to be in the featured videos of http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ and get their head out of their rear end.
I'm sorry, but things like the last comment come off as flagrantly racist.

Also, do you understand the cycle of poverty and what a poverty trap is? If not I suggest you look into it before continuing the discussion.

When nearly 1/3 of the black males in the population are in/ have been in jail for petty drug crimes (thus ruining the chances of employment and betterment of their situation) you've essentially created a trap that takes generations to climb out of...once the policies themselves are actually changed.

In short, we ****ed over an entire population, and wonder why that population is in such bad shape.
 

jkcerda

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1.I'm sorry, but things like the last comment come off as flagrantly racist.

2.Also, do you understand the cycle of poverty and what a poverty trap is? If not I suggest you look into it before continuing the discussion.

3.When nearly 1/3 of the black males in the population are in/ have been in jail for petty drug crimes (thus ruining the chances of employment and betterment of their situation) you've essentially created a trap that takes generations to climb out of...once the policies themselves are actually changed.

In short, we ****ed over an entire population, and wonder why that population is in such bad shape.
1. what is racist about it? have you been there? here are some sample vids.
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh1wyC861OmocYYT4J
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhTEG95oy5748u4H90
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhg3k7rOqASidTIb78

2. I grew up in a family of 14 , been there/done that , all in the family made it out. forgive me if I don't blame the invisible white hand for keeping ME down :rolleyes:

3. sometimes things are rather easy, if YOU don't want to get dirty, try not walking on mud, plenty of drugs all around me, somehow I made it out ok :rolleyes:

I will agree that people should NOT be jailed over drugs as long as they did no hurt anyone.

EDIT, mom raised me, no father figure needed.
 
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jkcerda

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I am deeply concerned about how you spend your free time on the internet, JK. o_O
not there, but I have seen plenty of links to it on FB. MOST on that site need to be flushed down the toilet. and for the record, I don't care what "color/race" they happen to be.
 

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not there, but I have seen plenty of links to it on FB. MOST on that site need to be flushed down the toilet. and for the record, I don't care what "color/race" they happen to be.
I only watched the first two videos, and even those I skipped through, but what I saw wasn't exactly indicative of a culture of violence in the midst of destroying itself.

It was just goofy as all get out.
 

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Well, that's disappointing. From the thread title I thought the feds were ensuring that pseudo-science would be kept out of schools and text books (looking at you Texas and Kansas). Instead, turned out to be a racial thing.
 

jkcerda

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Further proof that the quote, "If President Obama came out in favor of oxygen, Republicans would suffocate themselves," continues to be apropos.
1. I am not a republican.

2. I fail to see what is going to accomplished by this
(iii) decreasing the disproportionate number of referrals of African American children from general education to special education by addressing the root causes of the referrals and eradicating discriminatory referrals;
at what point are people accountable for their actions?
 

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1. I am not a republican.
A nice attempt to wiggle free from an argument that [INSERT LABEL HERE] are against every single idea that comes from the White House because it comes from the White House. It smacks of political hackery.

...2. I fail to see what is going to accomplished by this...
I agree. It's a toothless bit of policy.

...at what point are people accountable for their actions?
Children are generally considered unable to be accountable because they are a minor party.

Moreover, if it's shown that a large number of African American children are being shifted from general education to special education (I don't know the numbers, but I'm interested in learning more) this has little to do with accountability, but rather with a policy that may not be serving the best interests of school children and may need to be changed.

Again, this seems entirely uncontroversial and I'm fascinated that such a gummy little bit of policy matters.

Of course, Republicans (not you apparently) have whipped themselves into a froth over Common Core, so I shouldn't be the least surprised.
 

jkcerda

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A nice attempt to wiggle free from an argument that [INSERT LABEL HERE] are against every single idea that comes from the White House because it comes from the White House. It smacks of political hackery.



I agree. It's a toothless bit of policy.



Children are generally considered unable to be accountable because they are a minor party.

Moreover, if it's shown that a large number of African American children are being shifted from general education to special education (I don't know the numbers, but I'm interested in learning more) this has little to do with accountability, but rather with a policy that may not be serving the best interests of school children and may need to be changed.

Again, this seems entirely uncontroversial and I'm fascinated that such a gummy little bit of policy matters.

Of course, Republicans (not you apparently) have whipped themselves into a froth over Common Core, so I shouldn't be the least surprised.
I have 1 kid still in HS and one that finished, a few of their friends ended up in "special ed", those kids magically got their numbers/credits up pretty quick & graduated with my son, yes they did it on purpose, why? classes are easier for those groups, remedial "education" BS, at the end they still get a nice diploma like the ones my son has. color has nothing to do with it IMHO, just stupidity & laziness. seems plenty of teachers are also against common core.
 

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I have 1 kid still in HS and one that finished, a few of their friends ended up in "special ed", those kids magically got their numbers/credits up pretty quick & graduated with my son, yes they did it on purpose, why? classes are easier for those groups, remedial "education" BS, at the end they still get a nice diploma like the ones my son has. color has nothing to do with it IMHO, just stupidity & laziness.
Good to see you've got such strong evidence for your argument.


...seems plenty of teachers are also against common core.
So what? There are teachers who think the Sun resolves around the Earth, it doesn't mean they're right, or even particularly smart.
 

jkcerda

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1. Good to see you've got such strong evidence for your argument.




2.So what? There are teachers who think the Sun resolves around the Earth, it doesn't mean they're right, or even particularly smart.
1.links are posted from the White house no less . did you miss this part from post 3?
 During the summer months (June-August) of 2013, just 17% of Black
teenage boys (ages 16-19) and 28% of Hispanic teenage boys were
employed, compared to 34% of White teenage boys. Overall in 2013, half of
young black men (ages 20-24) were employed, compared to over two-thirds of
young white men. This employment gap persists as men get older.
 While only 6% of the overall population, Black males accounted for 43% of
murder victims in 2011.
5
Among youth ages 10 to 24, homicide is the leading
cause of death for Black males and also among the leading causes of death for
Hispanics,
and AIANs..
why is Obama discriminating against hispanics if their numbers are also high?

2. no problems there :D
 

hulugu

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1.links are posted from the White house no less . did you miss this part from post 3?


why is Obama discriminating against hispanics if their numbers are also high?

2. no problems there :D
A program focused on one group is not discriminatory.

At best, this is a red herring argument, though not as silly as your push for "personal accountability" and your insistence that the problem is the website: worldstarhiphop.com

This is the usual mushy conservative thinking.
 

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why is Obama discriminating against hispanics if their numbers are also high?

Must be the war on white people the Democrats hav embarked on. :rolleyes:


Republican Representative Mo Brooks of Alabama accused Democrats of launching a “war on whites” on the Laura Ingraham show today, the Huffington Post reports.

Ingraham brought up an interview with National Journal’s Ron Fournier, in which he told Fox News’ Chris Wallace that the behavior of the so-called “Deportation Caucus” has made it “impossible for your party, the Republican party, to be the party of the future, because it’s seen as the party of white people.”

Rep. Brooks replied by saying that “this is a part of the war on white people that’s being launched by the Democratic Party. And the way in which they’re launching this war is by claiming that whites hate everybody else.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/04/alabama-gop-congressman-tells-laura-ingraham-democrats-are-waging-war-on-whites/#.U9_h5JwfN2A.twitter
 

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1.A program focused on one group is not discriminatory.

2.At best, this is a red herring argument, though not as silly as your push for "personal accountability" and your insistence that the problem is the website: worldstarhiphop.com

3.This is the usual mushy conservative thinking.
1. sure it is, pushes for ONE group only.

2 not just there, but it is a great place to see the problem, plenty of "people" of diverse backgrounds with their violent stupidity uniting them.

3 :rolleyes:
 

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