Who writes these questions. Bindin vs. West

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  1. joepunk macrumors 68030

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  2. Anuba macrumors 68040

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    LOL. "Socialist country like Sweden"! It seems that Sweden is the far right's schoolbook example of a society gone wrong.

    Sweden is governed by a center-right coalition of conservatives and liberals. We have a capitalist economy, private and public hospitals, private and public schools, just like the US. We have a lower unemployment rate and a higher purchasing power per capita than the US. And no, we don't have the highest taxes in the world. And we sure as **** don't have reporters and news anchors who are as shockingly uneducated as Barbara West.
     
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    Wow, scary. Thank god I don't live in a country like yours.
     
  4. Anuba macrumors 68040

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    Yeah, you'd hate every minute of it.

    The reason why Swedish concepts like universal healthcare and subsidized higher education scares the crap out of right-wingers, is that it could lead to a situation where the average American is healthy and well educated and thus no longer susceptible to the GOP Kool-Aid. Keep the masses poor, sickly, ignorant and illiterate, and you'll have their support. That's how Stalin did it. No wonder GOP is as red as the Soviet flag.
     
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    Be very, very afraid.

    Sweden (SW) vs. US

    Human Development Index (rank): SW (5), US (12)
    Life expectancy at birth (years): SW (80.5), US (77.9)
    Human poverty index (rank): SW (1), US (17)*
    Probability at birth of not surviving to age 60 (%): SW (7.5), US (11.6)
    Population below income poverty line, $11 a day (%): SW (6.3), US (17.0)
    Inequality richest 10% to poorest 10%: SW (6.2), US (15.9)
    Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people 2000-04): SW (2.4)**, US (5.6)
    Prison population (per 100,000 people, 2007): SW (82), US (738)
    Estimated earned income, female (PPP US$): SW (29,044), US (25,005)
    Estimated earned income, male (PPP US$): SW (36,059), US (40,000)
    GDI (rank): SW (5), US (16)

    * = higher rank means fewer poor people

    ** = the homicide stats from Sweden are misleading:
    So, this is what Barbara West is scared to death of:

    - More equal pay for men/women
    - Living 3 years longer
    - 35% greater chance of seeing your 60th birthday
    - 83% less chance of being murdered
    - 89% less chance of ending up in prison
    - 63% less people below poverty line

    :eek:
     
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    Yeah, that sounds like such a crappy place to live, how dare any US president try to make us like that :rolleyes:
     
  8. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Obama campaign: forget about any more interviews.

    Can't say I blame them.
     
  9. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    Barbara West is married to Wade West, a political and media consultant for the Republican Party and a party donor. That's who is writing the questions.

    Check out the interview with John McCain. :D
     
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    QFT. :cool: I like how all these :eek: socialist :eek: views are so freaking scary when 1) they aren't really socialism to begin with and 2) countries with these 'types" of governments aren't exactly suffering in filth and despair.

    Fixed that for ya. ;)
     
  11. solvs macrumors 603

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    More Dems need to do this. Simply counter this crap with astonishment. I like saying "really?" in a surprised voice. Then repeating it as if I'm still, even more, surprised. "Really!?!" You get the whole "liberal elite" thing who thinks they're smarter than everyone else, but you get that anyway, and the GOP doesn't seem to have to watch what they say. They need to be called on the craziness.

    As Campbell Browne put it when she'd had enough, if someone says the sky is cloudy and another says it's clear, if you look outside and see clouds, why can't you call the other person on being wrong (I'm paraphrasing, but you get the idea).
     
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    Because in the interests of fairness, you have to respect their opinion. :rolleyes:

    Did Browne really say that? I don't have a whole lot of respect for the news reader babes on CNN, but that's something you'd expect to hear from a journalist, not a news reader.
     
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    Yeah, she has a show on CNN at 8pm eastern where she claims to do a reality check on the claims of the candidates and their platforms. I TiVo it daily, along with Matthews, Olbermann, and Maddow on MSNBC. Unlike them, she's not supposed to be partisan, and I don't find her unfair, but she's still not subjecting either either side to deep scrutiny, just a bit more than we're used to seeing this election cycle.

    I think it's called "Campbell Brown: No Bias, No Bull," which is her mantra.


    "News reader babes?" Nice. :rolleyes:
     
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    She's been upgraded from newsreader to more of a, um, political commentator, sort of like a female Cafferty, with a hint of Maddow/Olbermann style but without the vindictive and scornful liberal bias. I don't know if she writes her own stuff, but it's good.

    I liked this one: http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/13/campbell.brown.obama/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

    Now, about Marx-inspired terminology:

    Obama wants to cut taxes for the middle class and small businesses. Cut. When republicans refer to these tax cuts as "spreading the wealth around", they're implying that these 'lost' tax dollars somehow belong to a collective pool of money, and that Obama will be "taking" money from this pool and handing it out, like some sort of liberal Robin Hood.
    Anyone who equals tax cuts to "taking" is a friggin' communist tool. To cut taxes isn't to "take" from someone, to cut taxes is to STOP taking. Even a liberal knows that.
     
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    Am I supposed to take them seriously as journalists? The people who just read off the headlines every day? They're Ken and Barbie dolls picked from local stations for their looks and ability to read the news smoothly as well as anything else. With enough experience, some of 'em may become respected in their field some day, but mostly they just disappear into the ether after a couple of years to be replaced by other talking heads. I have to admit, I don't watch CNN much nowadays, but the only one I can think of that comes anywhere close to being a serious journalist is Wolf Blitzer, and he's not that close.
     
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    Hey! Don't knock Campbell Brown. she has a sexy voice.:p
     
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    Well, maybe I shouldn't pick on her. As I said, I don't watch much CNN, and I didn't even know she'd been promoted to her own show. I'd love to be surprised by finding out that she's good. Hell, KO surprised me, so why not?
     
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    I think her main objective of directing attention to her show was accomplished.
     

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