Why are people asked what race they are?

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  1. thermodynamic Suspended

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    https://chroniclevitae.com/news/302-should-you-check-the-race-box

    Here is what the ultimate takeaway really should be:

    We're all part of the human race.

    But the whole article is worth reading, considering the number of reasons and believes people include for when they do (or don't) respond.

    Here is the technical reason for the existence of said questions:


    Here are a couple of the more interesting beliefs posited, more exist in the article:

     
  2. Desertrat macrumors newbie

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    For the US, it probably goes back to the slavery days. Whites, blacks, Indians, "other" and suchlike were seen to be important. Nowadays it's part of government snooping, trying to know everything about everybody. You can see it in data breakdowns at, e.g., the CDC or the Justice Department. HEW and HUD use the info as they hunt for fairness/unfairness.
     
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    How else will you know when you've hit your diversity quota that the left pushes so hard?
     
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    [deleted because I should take more time to read the OP's article before commenting]
     
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    Correct. This is exactly why. Doesnt everyone "get" this?
     
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    Sure, we are all part of the human race. A nice sentiment, but in reality, people are still affected by preconceptions and judgements of inferiority or superiority exist based on the color of one's skin. If you aren't perceptive enough to see it in everyday life, browse the past posts in this forum for a few hours.
     
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    As a mixed-race person, my "favorite" part of filling out government forms is when they require that I only pick one race.
     
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    There's about six major races in the world. Race tells very little. People often associate race with ethnic and or heritage background. People often confuse nationality for ethnicity and or heritage. One can have Irish ethnicity/heritage, even if they're 4th generation American nationality.

    One can physically look Caucasian but may as well hold ethnicity from Asia Minor. Specifically, one could theoretically have ginger hair and blue/green eyes, and exhibit Nordic/Caucasus/West European looks but could very well be Turkish, as these types of people do exist but are a minority. In other words, don't judge a book by its cover. Do I think filling out a box is wrong? In a way. Hiring managers may have bias and the applications of racial minorities such as Blacks or East Asians go into the junk pile, while Latin/Hispanics may only be considered for menial labor tasks.
     
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    The concept of "Race" has no basis in the sciences. It is a word often used where ethnicity should be placed. Eye, hair, skin color - traditional makers of "race" - are, genetically, very recent adaptations in the human and can change rapidly (in evolutionary scale) due to environment and other external forces.
     
  10. impulse462 Suspended

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    i'd like to think it would be used benignly for statistics purposes, but i doubt that is the truth
     
  11. FrankieTDouglas macrumors 65816

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    These checkboxes make just as much sense as asking what someone's height is.
     
  12. Three141 macrumors 6502

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    It's mainly used for statistical data, in the UK at least it may also be used to promote diversity, i.e. bump a selected ethnic group up the que.
     
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    just don't ask my weight.
     
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    I check the "Other" category, and write in "100 Meter Relay"
     
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    We actually hired a guy that answered, "School: Reluctantly."
     
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    I don't care what "race" a person is I just want their character be good!
     
  17. Altis macrumors 68020

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    Yeah, the BBC wants 1/6 new hires to be part of the LGBTQ community.

    Haven't the slightest clue how they can or will try to test for that.
     
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    A bulk of the larger firms I've applied to also ask for your sex, religious belief and sexual orientation as well as your ethnic background, I think I applied to the BBC once and this was asked, they will probably write a code to promote those candidates.
     
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    That's not discriminatory or anything...
     
  20. Three141 macrumors 6502

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    If I recall MP Harriet Harman correctly it's deemed as positive descrimination.

    When she gave a speech about promoting gender equality.
     
  21. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    Its for monitoring, nothing to do with "positive discrimination"
     
  22. unlinked macrumors 6502a

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    IIRC the BBC designates some jobs specifically based on characteristics such as race. I think this is probably illegal in the UK so they claim they are internships but presumably people with internship experience are much more likely to get a real job which is open to all races (in theory).
     
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    This is an organisational thing though, not a legal thing.
     
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    I had that same reaction to some other hiring practices I see here.
     
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    You have problems with me judging people on the content of their character than his/her race?
     

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