Why are there 120 “dots” on Infograph watchface??

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  1. jon08 macrumors 68000

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    I never understood why are there so many “dots” on the analogue watch faces?

    Altogether 120?? It would make sense if there were 60 (one for each second), but why 120?!

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  3. jon08 thread starter macrumors 68000

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    What would be the point of that? Literally of no use to anyone...
     
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    Some watches have even more tick marks, but they empathize the second to make the time easier to read (like Apple probably should have).

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  5. Jordan921 macrumors 601

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    Been that way for normal watches. Why do they have them?
     
  6. BoricuaHec01 macrumors 6502a

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    Yea way too much going on in that face, I stuck with the Infograph Modular face.
     
  7. Azathoth123 macrumors 6502

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    Just wait a few years, you young fellows won’t even be able to see those marks, lol.
     
  8. richard371 macrumors 68020

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    Which Daytona reference is this?
     
  9. user1234 macrumors 6502a

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    I don’t like it and don’t know why they did it. Its almost impossible to accurately read the minute hand at a quick glance unless its at or close to the 5 minute marks. I would have preferred second marks or even more marks with the second marks emphasized. That’s why I also have a second infograph with digital time in the top center complication spot for when i quickly need accurate time.
     
  10. iPhysicist macrumors 65816

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    That "digital time thingy" is why people are unable to read the time accurately. My watches is 2 Minutes fast so I always have some buffer time.
     
  11. tromboneaholic, Dec 11, 2018
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    I read an interesting post a while ago about Apple's design of the analog infograph watch face. I personally find the time difficult to read at a glance, and I thought it was because I was out of practice even though I used to wear traditional watches years ago.

    However, Apple hasn't done the best job designing this analog face. The author compared how difficult it is to tell the time at a glance on the infograph face:
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    with how much easier it is to tell the time at a glance on well designed analog faces:
    Screen Shot 2018-12-11 at 6.07.48 AM.png

    • The hour markers for 12 (and often 3/6/9) are more prominent.
    • The hour indices are much larger than the minute markings.
    • The hour hands nearly touch the hour indices.
    The author suggests Apple needs to open the Apple Watch up to allow for third party faces. I think this could lead to more confusion and issues than it's worth, and I would rather see Apple make better analog faces. The full article has more examples and is worth a read for anyone interested in the topic:

    https://marco.org/2018/10/09/infograph-legibility
     
  12. user1234 macrumors 6502a

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    Except my previous watch was an analog watch, and I have been reading analog clocks daily since I was a kid. It's not the issue. The issue is that the infograph is difficult to read accurately at a glance. I can easily read the approximate time but getting it within the minute from just a quick glance is not easy.

    If anything I find it easier to read within the minute on watches with only 5 minute marks and no second marks than the infograph.
     
  13. TwiceNightly macrumors 6502

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    I get the indices thing but if it is to be a fair comparison on how easy it is to quickly read the time then at least 3 of the sub dials need to be turned off on the Apple Watch as the other watches don't have them.
     
  14. tl01 macrumors 68020

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    I use that face with the black background and it is much easier to read the time that way. The white is more confusing IMHO.
     
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    In the article he shows Infograph with minimal complications, and I don't think it's as easy as it could be to read at a glance:

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  16. adamgbiggs macrumors 6502

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    Apple could make it so much easier to read at a glance with a simple update to the second markers, just make them stand out a little more like in this quick mock-up ...

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  17. tromboneaholic Suspended

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    Also, I think what trips me up is the distance between the hour indices and the hour hand. I didn't really think about it until I read his blog and saw the photo examples.

    I'm not bashing Apple at all, and I'm a huge fan of the watch. This is actually one of the few issues I can think of that affects me.
     
  18. adamgbiggs macrumors 6502

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    I agree, the hour hand could be a bit longer, personally I think it would be better 3 quarters the size of the minute hand.

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