Why do teachers in Canada make more than say Social Workers?

waloshin

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Teachers in Canada start at $ 35,000 and after 20 years a maximum of $110,000.

While Social Workers make a maximum of 55,000 a year.
 

dukebound85

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your post makes no sense

you can not compare a range to an average without having more data at hand....like the meidan wage for teachers


and with all jobs, its what the market feels the profession is worth that dictates the salary band
 

waloshin

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your post makes no sense

you can not compare a range to an average without having more data at hand....like the meidan wage for teachers


and with all jobs, its what the market feels the profession is worth that dictates the salary band
Ok lets change that medium to a maximum.
 

rdowns

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Why can I buy condoms for 7 bucks and a toaster costs $20?
 

firestarter

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Teachers in Canada start at $ 35,000 and after 20 years a maximum of $110,000.

While Social Workers make a maximum of 55,000 a year.
I'll ignore your poor use of statistics for now...

But just think about this... the 'top job' for a teacher is a headmaster/school principal. This may be more of a managerial position, running a school with 2000+ kids, managing a staff of 50+, dealing with millions of $ of budget. It's like being a company director - and $110k isn't unreasonable (actually, it's not very good).

Are there any comparable jobs in social work? Strikes me that that occupation is more about 1 to 1 working, and not so much about management and budgets.
 

waloshin

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Why can I buy condoms for 7 bucks and a toaster costs $20?
Both are stressful jobs, both require a Bachelors and to get a decent job as a Social Worker you need a Masters just like a Teacher.

is that even correct now? you can't just change average to maximum to argue whatever point you want.

Where is it said social workers make maximum of 55k?
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=28*8*5*4*12&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

http://www.livingin-canada.com/work-salaries-wages-canada.html

$28 an hour * 8 hours a day * 5 days a week * 4 weeks a month * 12 months

And to add to the fire I know a Kfc Manager that has ten years experience with Kfc and he makes $45,000 a year.
 

dukebound85

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OK, did you really just link me to a calculator page? lol. I wasn't questioning the salary but the accuracy of changing average to maximum in your comparision on a whim

also, there are ~52 weeks in a year, not 48 as your math would imply

AND

It is not a maximum for social worker, the link you sent clearly states "average hourly wage"
 

r.j.s

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And to add to the fire I know a Kfc Manager that has ten years experience with Kfc and he makes $45,000 a year.
What does that have to do with anything?

I make about $45,000 USD per year. Does that upset you?
 

chstr

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teachers earn the money they make, so I'm not sure your's is a fair comparison. If you compare social work to say, a corporate spokesperson that can make maybe millions, I would fully agree with you that it is an absurd reality.

And to add to the fire I know a Kfc Manager that has ten years experience with Kfc and he makes $45,000 a year.
45k after 10 years experience is pretty bad. I'd never be able to do that
 

waloshin

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What does that have to do with anything?

I make about $45,000 USD per year. Does that upset you?
Not at all, it's just no school needed, no effort needed and he makes $ 45,000.
 

rhsgolfer33

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I'd venture that its supply and demand. There is a much greater demand for teachers than there is for social workers (think of how man schools there are in a city versus how many places with social workers). I'd also venture a guess that the supply of qualified teachers is lower than those workers that qualify to be a social worker (credential requirements would weed out numerous people that would otherwise be qualified for both positions). This would suggest that the price of hiring a teacher is higher than that of hiring a social worker.

Also, do teachers actually work 12 months a year where you are at? Because here in California, they'd work about 9 months in a year. Teachers don't earn wages during the summer when they are not working (however, many in my area opt to have their paychecks distributed over 12 months instead of 9).
 

waloshin

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45k after 10 years experience is pretty bad. I'd never be able to do that.
What about a job that takes you 4 - 6 years education, large school debt, with a high burn out rate. While making around $54,000
 

Vivid.Inferno

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Both are stressful jobs, both require a Bachelors and to get a decent job as a Social Worker you need a Masters just like a Teacher.
False. SSW is a college program, not a Uni one. Maybe if you want the top paying job, but you don't need a Masters. Also I have a friend that just graduated SSW from college and is making 29$ an hour starting wage....
 

waloshin

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