Why do teachers in Canada make more than say Social Workers?

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  1. waloshin macrumors 68040

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    Teachers in Canada start at $ 35,000 and after 20 years a maximum of $110,000.

    While Social Workers make a maximum of 55,000 a year.
     
  2. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    your post makes no sense

    you can not compare a range to an average without having more data at hand....like the meidan wage for teachers


    and with all jobs, its what the market feels the profession is worth that dictates the salary band
     
  3. waloshin thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Ok lets change that medium to a maximum.
     
  4. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    is that even correct now? you can't just change average to maximum to argue whatever point you want.

    Where is it said social workers make maximum of 55k?
     
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    Why can I buy condoms for 7 bucks and a toaster costs $20?
     
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    I'll ignore your poor use of statistics for now...

    But just think about this... the 'top job' for a teacher is a headmaster/school principal. This may be more of a managerial position, running a school with 2000+ kids, managing a staff of 50+, dealing with millions of $ of budget. It's like being a company director - and $110k isn't unreasonable (actually, it's not very good).

    Are there any comparable jobs in social work? Strikes me that that occupation is more about 1 to 1 working, and not so much about management and budgets.
     
  7. waloshin thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Both are stressful jobs, both require a Bachelors and to get a decent job as a Social Worker you need a Masters just like a Teacher.

    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=28*8*5*4*12&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

    http://www.livingin-canada.com/work-salaries-wages-canada.html

    $28 an hour * 8 hours a day * 5 days a week * 4 weeks a month * 12 months

    And to add to the fire I know a Kfc Manager that has ten years experience with Kfc and he makes $45,000 a year.
     
  8. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    OK, did you really just link me to a calculator page? lol. I wasn't questioning the salary but the accuracy of changing average to maximum in your comparision on a whim

    also, there are ~52 weeks in a year, not 48 as your math would imply

    AND

    It is not a maximum for social worker, the link you sent clearly states "average hourly wage"
     
  9. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    What does that have to do with anything?

    I make about $45,000 USD per year. Does that upset you?
     
  10. chstr macrumors 6502a

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    teachers earn the money they make, so I'm not sure your's is a fair comparison. If you compare social work to say, a corporate spokesperson that can make maybe millions, I would fully agree with you that it is an absurd reality.

    45k after 10 years experience is pretty bad. I'd never be able to do that
     
  11. waloshin thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Not at all, it's just no school needed, no effort needed and he makes $ 45,000.
     
  12. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    I haven't gone to school, other than HS.
     
  13. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    You don't think a manager of a fast food restaurant works hard then? You have a few things to learn about life yet...
     
  14. rhsgolfer33 macrumors 6502a

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    I'd venture that its supply and demand. There is a much greater demand for teachers than there is for social workers (think of how man schools there are in a city versus how many places with social workers). I'd also venture a guess that the supply of qualified teachers is lower than those workers that qualify to be a social worker (credential requirements would weed out numerous people that would otherwise be qualified for both positions). This would suggest that the price of hiring a teacher is higher than that of hiring a social worker.

    Also, do teachers actually work 12 months a year where you are at? Because here in California, they'd work about 9 months in a year. Teachers don't earn wages during the summer when they are not working (however, many in my area opt to have their paychecks distributed over 12 months instead of 9).
     
  15. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    your views on life are skewed sorry
     
  16. r.j.s Moderator emeritus

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    This is very true ... managing isn't nearly the same as dropping the chicken in the fryer.
     
  17. waloshin thread starter macrumors 68040

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    What about a job that takes you 4 - 6 years education, large school debt, with a high burn out rate. While making around $54,000
     
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    Question: What type of "teacher" are we talking about here that can make a max of $110,000?

    Elementary? High School? A college Professor?
     
  19. waloshin thread starter macrumors 68040

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    High school with Masters, and 20 years,
     
  20. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    my first job after college was 56k

    quite nice
     
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    And a social worker with 20 years and a Masters would make a max of $55,000?

    I don't know... I may be on waloshin's side here. Seems strange to me. But then again I don't get how a baseball player can make $231 million either, so what do I know?
     
  22. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    His quotes show that social worker on avg make 55k, not max

    He doesnt have his figures right
     
  23. Vivid.Inferno macrumors 6502

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    False. SSW is a college program, not a Uni one. Maybe if you want the top paying job, but you don't need a Masters. Also I have a friend that just graduated SSW from college and is making 29$ an hour starting wage....
     
  24. waloshin thread starter macrumors 68040

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