Why do we even have the Democratic party?

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  1. XnavxeMiyyep macrumors 65816

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    Ugh, why do we even have the Democratic party if they're just going to vote conservatively?


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    although there are plenty of others
     
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    The patriot act?

    I had no idea that anyone could possibly still support that POS.:mad:
     
  4. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    You're obviously not a patriot, then. ;) :)
     
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    I guess not....
     
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  7. XnavxeMiyyep thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I use the modern colloquial conservative, meaning restrictive on social issues and permissive on economic issues.



    I'm actually pretty shocked that Al Franken voted for the PATRIOT Act. It doesn't surprise me that the existing Dems did, since all the ones who were around in 2001 did before (except Feingold).
     
  8. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Now that they are in charge they want the power, just like the repubs did.

    Sickening if you ask me.
     
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    When you were in power it didn't sicken you

    Why was that?
     
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    I was independent until this election because I wanted to vote in the primaries for Ron Paul. Ive never voted for a republican for president in the general election.

    The first patriot act was disgusting also.
     
  11. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

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    Both partys are rotten, one will take every dime for greedy big business the other will take every penny for big govt. Both should be abolished. They take turns screwing this country and its people.
     
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    No, they both do both. They know who funds their campaigns.
     
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    George Washing was a smart dude and he was against all this party crap. He was right and i stand by my post that both partys are scum.
     
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    I'm pretty surprised to see Al Franken vote for this :(.
     
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    You and me both. From what I have heard, the guy was really against this stuff. I'm sure there is more to it that I am picking up here.

    P-Worm
     
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    Just as confusing as the Franken vote aligning with the Cornyn are those two points. Was this some sort of wierd opposite day vote? I thought Democrats as a whole were opposed to the Act while GOPers supported it.

    I'm guessing the reason for this is that the administration supported this renewal. If so, Obama's RDF makes Steve's look pitiful.
     
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    I was confused too. I reread this paragraph several times thinking I kept misreading it. Strange vote...
     
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    Somedays politics and the two parties remind me of the movie The Sting.

    In the end, it is the audience who gets conned. In politics, it's the voters. :)
     
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    you misunderstand politics that is all.

    See, the Democrats were against this while a Republican Administration was at the helm. While a Democrat is at the helm this type of power is OK because they "know" how to use it.

    IOW - if we take your rights away its because we know what is best for you, if the other guy takes your rights away he is hates you.
     
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    Actually the Al Franken vote doesn't entirely surprise me, if you read his books he is more to the middle than many of the senators.
     
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    The democratic party has always stood for big government. This is a big government bill. The CONSERVATIVE position is smaller government, less government intervention, pro-personal liberty, and pro-strict constitutionalism.

    Maybe you're thinking hawkish-liberal (aka neo-con)
     
  23. XnavxeMiyyep thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Sure, that's a libertarian position, but as I stated before, I'm referring to a social conservative position, which is against personal liberties.
     
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    I ask myself that sometimes too. I guess it's an umbrella for all the mindless sheep to huddle under.
     
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    Useful post. I think you've demonstrated through your posts, quite clearly, that you are the one who is misinformed and simply reiterates whatever content Hannity had on his previous show. And I'm a registered republican...
     

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