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kvnkvnkvn

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This has occurred with the release of the iPhone and the iPhone 4s. When the iPhone came out it was released in countries they spoke other languages than it support and in the present with the iPhone 4s Siri is only supported in a few languages but the phone has been released on is being released in places where people spoken languages it doesn't not support.

Why not just hold off release until it can support the native language
 

Small White Car

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Siri is a feature, not a product. I assume you're talking about China here, but the iPhone supports multiple Chinese languages in the keyboard and OS. Siri doesn't, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who would rather have a Siri-less phone instead of no iPhone at all.
 
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kvnkvnkvn

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I was talking about the first iPhone and it was released all over the mideast when it did not support Arabic at the time.

Siri is one of the many points of the iPhone 4s except for slight increases and beside the new 64GB model. Many of the countries already had the iPhone 4. Brazil got the iPhone 4s a few weeks ago and Siri does not support Brazilian Portuguese.

Why not just hold off a few weeks or months to have everything work.
 
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Consultant

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I was talking about the first iPhone and it was released all over the mideast when it did not support Arabic at the time.

Siri is one of the many points of the iPhone 4s except for slight increases and beside the new 64GB model. Many of the countries already had the iPhone 4. Brazil got the iPhone 4s a few weeks ago and Siri does not support Brazilian Portuguese.

Why not just hold off a few weeks or months to have everything work.

First iPhone was NOT released in the middle east. It was released in US in 2007. Then later United Kingdom, France, Germany, Republic of Ireland, and Austria. None of those countries are based in the middle east.
 
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wordoflife

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Why not just hold off a few weeks or months to have everything work.

The world doesn't exactly revolve around the middle easy (or does it? :p ) and it would have taken more than a few weeks/months to have everything in arabic. I'm guessing they first sold in markets that seemed most profitable to them ... hence developing a english, spanish, french, german, etc version first.
 
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kas23

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The rest of the world doesn't speak English? Huh, I never knew....
 
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Leonard1818

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Let me guess... the OP has never stepped foot in a business class of any sort.

"Yes I understand Mr. CEO that we will likley sell millions of these in country XYZ-- regardless of what I'm about to say... but I'm worried that we should maybe hold off becuase that one little feature that's still in beta isn't supported in their native language"

:facepalm:
 
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salacious

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There was me think that English, french, deutch, Dutch, and Spanish were second languages all over the world??
 
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kvnkvnkvn

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Let me guess... the OP has never stepped foot in a business class of any sort.

"Yes I understand Mr. CEO that we will likley sell millions of these in country XYZ-- regardless of what I'm about to say... but I'm worried that we should maybe hold off becuase that one little feature that's still in beta isn't supported in their native language"

:facepalm:

Actually I have take several business classes; Business Law, Business Ethics, Macroeconomics, Microeconomics, Entrepreneurship Development etc.
 
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kvnkvnkvn

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There was me think that English, french, deutch, Dutch, and Spanish were second languages all over the world??

Actually no; of the 196 countries almost none speak German and Dutch. English, French and Spanish are common languages but all or a majority of the worlds 6+ billion population do not speak them and not all people learn second languages.

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First iPhone was NOT released in the middle east. It was released in US in 2007. Then later United Kingdom, France, Germany, Republic of Ireland, and Austria. None of those countries are based in the middle east.

My mistake; the iPhone 3G
 
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Comeagain?

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Actually I have take several business classes; Business Law, Business Ethics, Macroeconomics, Microeconomics, Entrepreneurship Development etc.

Good for you.

Apple makes millions and million of dollars off of the iPhone, so they are going to sell it in as many places as possible, ie. where the OS supports that language. Since Siri is a feature, and many people speak English, French, or German, those were good languages for A BETA. And according to apple:
In 2012, Siri will support additional languages, including Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Italian, and Spanish
so this will become a non-issue later.
 
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kvnkvnkvn

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Siri is in beta and it will probably add more languages as time goes on.

I understand it is in beta but it was still discussed heavily during the keynote making it one of the main additions over the previous version then to not have it available for all places the device was released. They should have just not spoke of it until fully developed or let it be a surprise in the devices which languages it supported.
 
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808?

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Aug 4, 2011
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There are not mentioning Siri for the official launch next week of the iPhone 4s in the China market (the biggest), so it is not an issue for most.

You can be sure the queues for the 4s in China will be very long regardless of Siri or not.
 
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Jordan921

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Jul 7, 2010
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This has occurred with the release of the iPhone and the iPhone 4s. When the iPhone came out it was released in countries they spoke other languages than it support and in the present with the iPhone 4s Siri is only supported in a few languages but the phone has been released on is being released in places where people spoken languages it doesn't not support.

Why not just hold off release until it can support the native language

Siri is only a feature and at the moment it might not support all languages it is still in beta.
 
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callum23

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Let me guess... the OP has never stepped foot in a business class of any sort.

"Yes I understand Mr. CEO that we will likley sell millions of these in country XYZ-- regardless of what I'm about to say... but I'm worried that we should maybe hold off becuase that one little feature that's still in beta isn't supported in their native language"

:facepalm:

Haha hes definitely got no clue

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This has occurred with the release of the iPhone and the iPhone 4s. When the iPhone came out it was released in countries they spoke other languages than it support and in the present with the iPhone 4s Siri is only supported in a few languages but the phone has been released on is being released in places where people spoken languages it doesn't not support.

Why not just hold off release until it can support the native language

Did you ever think that people might not use Siri? or they might have learnt English or another language Siri supports, you got rocks in ya head?
 
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vanboi

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Jul 13, 2010
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I understand it is in beta but it was still discussed heavily during the keynote making it one of the main additions over the previous version then to not have it available for all places the device was released. They should have just not spoke of it until fully developed or let it be a surprise in the devices which languages it supported.

The keynote was given in English, not in Arabic, aiming at English speaking audience, which Siri fully supports. You only have a case when there is an ad/keynote in your language that advertises Siri.
 
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itsmemuffins

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Jun 23, 2010
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This has occurred with the release of the iPhone and the iPhone 4s. When the iPhone came out it was released in countries they spoke other languages than it support and in the present with the iPhone 4s Siri is only supported in a few languages but the phone has been released on is being released in places where people spoken languages it doesn't not support.

Why not just hold off release until it can support the native language



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gnasher729

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Actually I have take several business classes; Business Law, Business Ethics, Macroeconomics, Microeconomics, Entrepreneurship Development etc.

When I read your post, I thought you were just a bit naïve. But it seems you didn't listen in your business classes. Since there is a massive black market for iPhones in many countries whose language isn't supported (most of the queues in US stores being caused by scalpers who buy the products and ship to Asia at a profit), not selling to those countries when there is evidence for massive demand would be rather idiotic.
 
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Leonard1818

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Actually I have take several business classes; Business Law, Business Ethics, Macroeconomics, Microeconomics, Entrepreneurship Development etc.

calling BS on the above in bold.

...sorry...

I had a LOT of fun in undergrad... A LOT... and still took away basic economic concepts from my micro and macro classes (I took a 3rd econ class as well and I'm not sure why cause I don't like econ).
 
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salacious

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May 15, 2011
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To the op, of the languages I listed, a majority of countries do have second languages, dunno what school you went to but in this day and age even africans in poor countries learn English!! And in Saudi where my friend is from he learnt English and French as standard? In turkey english is the second language to learn, in holland English is the second language, in canada they speak French, in Eritrea Italian and Arabic are second languages!! If your suggesting countries like Hawaii or something then you need to take a break from your virtual reality and take the red pill.. You will find the truth once your there
 
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Consultant

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Jun 27, 2007
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The rest of the world doesn't speak English? Huh, I never knew....

Actually, when I travelled to the middle east in 07, I had no problem finding English speaking native buyers for iPhones.

The jailbreak software store (I think Installer, this is before Cydia) had Arabic support packages that they can install easily.
 
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lordofthereef

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Nov 29, 2011
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My local grocery store sells coca cola from Mexico. It's delicious. It is made with real sugar rather than this corn BS. Unfortunately the label is all in Spanish. I guess I shouldn't be drinking it since I only have a very minimal understanding of the language. To think, I have been doing it wrong all this time. :eek:
 
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