I know HSPA+ is suspose to be 4G but they call the 3G HSPA, 4G???AT&T calls its HSPA network 4G.
LTE will say LTE.
It's occasionally dropping the LTE signal for any number of reasons.Mine switches back and forth from 4g to LTE a lot of times. My city is covered though, what's going on?
HSPA is not quite 3G, and not quite 4G, so AT&T calls it 4G.I know HSPA+ is suspose to be 4G but they call the 3G HSPA, 4G???![]()
Whenever I'm on a voice call on AT&T and there is any data it always drops to 4G and stays there, sometimes long after the original call is over.Mine switches back and forth from 4g to LTE a lot of times. My city is covered though, what's going on?
I've noticed this as well. I sometimes toggle airplane mode on and then off to get LTE to kick back in.Whenever I'm on a voice call on AT&T and there is any data it always drops to 4G and stays there, sometimes long after the original call is over.
Yes, for over a year now.I know HSPA+ is suspose to be 4G but they call the 3G HSPA, 4G???![]()
This is an unfortunate consequence of the decision of the ITU to originally exclude early LTE revisions from the 4G definition. When carriers appealed, they also asked the ITU to re-brand 3G HSPA networks as "4G" even though they were just enhanced 3G technologies. Deutsche Telekom in particular was vocal because they knew T-Mobile USA was years behind Verizon and AT&T in rolling out a real 4G LTE network. Unfortunately, the ITU relented and watered down the definition of "4G" so much that it became meaningless.I know HSPA+ is suspose to be 4G but they call the 3G HSPA, 4G???![]()
HSPA is straight up 3G. HSPA+ is really 3.5G. Only on AT&T's network you will see the indicator saying "4G" when on HSPA. No other carrier in the world would give you "4G" but AT&T on iPhones. That's most likely some kind of Apple's concession to AT&T for who knows what reason.HSPA is not quite 3G, and not quite 4G, so AT&T calls it 4G.
You forgot Tmobile USA.HSPA is straight up 3G. HSPA+ is really 3.5G. Only on AT&T's network you will see the indicator saying "4G" when on HSPA. No other carrier in the world would give you "4G" but AT&T on iPhones.
Not the case on iPhones. Not to mention that here in NYC T-Mobile's HSPA+ network is order of magnitude faster than AT&T's HSPA+ . Here is what I get on T-Mobile using iPhone 5:You forgot Tmobile USA.
They're doing the same thing.
This happens to me too!! What gives?!Whenever I'm on a voice call on AT&T and there is any data it always drops to 4G and stays there, sometimes long after the original call is over.
Yes, but speed has nothing to do. I get 8-9mpbs on AT&T's HSPA+ too.Not the case on iPhones. Not to mention that here in NYC T-Mobile's HSPA+ network is order of magnitude faster than AT&T's HSPA+ . Here is what I get on T-Mobile using iPhone 5:
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Sure but the point is on iPhone only AT&T's network gets the "4G" treatment, globally.Yes, but speed has nothing to do. I get 8-9mpbs on AT&T's HSPA+ too.
Its still 3G or 3G+ just named/baptized 4G by AT&T and Tmobile.
I dont get what you're saying.Sure but the point is on iPhone only AT&T's network gets the "4G" treatment, globally.
It would've been nice if speed was the differentiator...
I am precisely talking about Apple's double standard when it comes to "4G" branding on their own iPhone product, which happens to be the subject of this topic. I'm not sure if I could be ANY clearer.I dont get what you're saying.
Its not just on the iphone, AT&T has been advertising their HSPA+ as 4G for a long time now. So Tmobile does it too and advertises that they have the fastest 4G network or something and its ok?
Isnt it the same thing?
Tmobile doesnt have LTE at all but their HSPA+ is called 4G now.
More confusing for the regural consumer to understand and decipher each carrier marketing plot while they play with names, terms and speeds.
Wrong. AT&T calls HSPA 3G, HSPA+ 4G and LTE is simply known as LTE.AT&T calls its HSPA network 4G.
LTE will say LTE.
By that logic when connected to AT&T's MicroCell capable of 3.6mbps the indicator should display 3G, right?Wrong. AT&T calls HSPA 3G, HSPA+ 4G and LTE is simply known as LTE.