Why doesn’t Apple usually sell sim-free at pre-order or launch?

xxray

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I know all phones are unlocked but if I wanted to preorder an X today, I couldn’t even do it without signing up through a carrier. It’s disappointing. Is this just because more phones sell through carriers or what? What are my options for working around this while still preordering?
 

applesith

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Does buying the X outright at fill price off my Verizon account from Apple connect the phone/sim to my account?

If I end up giving/selling to a friend, do they have any connection/access/limitation?
 

Kermy

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My personal opinion is that it helps keep scalpers down. By tying the phone to a network, there is less chance some guy has 50 different aliases buying phones to sell on eBay.
^---Yep what he said.
 

Lobwedgephil

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Probably a carrier deal, but you can buy the T Mobile version without a carrier, but it only works on at&t or T Mobile.
 

BFG86

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You could buy a t-mobile phone without proving they were your carrier. All the others had a carrier verification.

I suspect this is why it sold out the fastest. I wonder how many launch day phones they had because myself and others that I read all saw a delivery date between November 10-17 as soon as we got in the store.

I still could have gotten a sprint phone on launch day an hour after pre order if I still had an account from them and this morning there were still apple stores offering launch day pickups for sprint phones.
 

RedRabbits

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Carrier deal... the phones need a network, so they cut a deal with them. Also, something like 80% of phones are bought through carrier vs. directly from Apple.
 

xxray

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Probably a carrier deal, but you can buy the T Mobile version without a carrier, but it only works on at&t or T Mobile.
You could buy a t-mobile phone without proving they were your carrier. All the others had a carrier verification.

I suspect this is why it sold out the fastest. I wonder how many launch day phones they had because myself and others that I read all saw a delivery date between November 10-17 as soon as we got in the store.

I still could have gotten a sprint phone on launch day an hour after pre order if I still had an account from them and this morning there were still apple stores offering launch day pickups for sprint phones.
Yeah I wouldn't buy the T-Mobile version since it doesn't work on all networks. I switch carriers somewhat often, so I'd want the phone to be able to be used on T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T.
 

Mlrollin91

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Does buying the X outright at fill price off my Verizon account from Apple connect the phone/sim to my account?

If I end up giving/selling to a friend, do they have any connection/access/limitation?
If you end up selling it, you need the SIM card. Otherwise when they turn it on, it will activate that SIM card to your number.
 

AttilaTheHun

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I know all phones are unlocked but if I wanted to preorder an X today, I couldn’t even do it without signing up through a carrier. It’s disappointing. Is this just because more phones sell through carriers or what? What are my options for working around this while still preordering?
The iPhone 8 and 8+ from the beginning were available as sim free will work with all include CDMS the iPhone X factory unlock for GSM will work with all but ATT and T Mobil will not have CDMS
 

FunkyTang

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SIM free is the scalper' favorite. That's why they delay it a month or two. Except for the 8 which had low demand and high supply.