Why I Love PBS

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Huntn, Jan 8, 2015.

  1. Huntn macrumors G5

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    Reported today on PBS radio a study about the detrimental effects of sleep deprivation, but I could not locate an adequate link.

    You name it, Any disease or condition you are prone to, sleep deprivation makes you more susceptible to it. In lab rats given cancer, in those who were sleep deprived, the tumors grew twice as fast. Sleep deprived people eat up to 500 extra calories per day. A large trucking company virtually emininated all of their catastrophic accidents by testing their drivers for sleep apnea. Studies of airline pilots, indicate that continuous sleep deprivation of international flights, in addition to high altitude radiation shortens pilot lives significantly. Sleep deprived young adults are much more susceptible to accidents. The report when on and on and on. :eek: If I find an associated link, I'll post it.
     
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    tl;drzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
     
  3. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Not sure where the political or social slant is on this.
     
  4. bradl macrumors 68040

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    I think the slant here is the non-interest of others in the MSM, as this isn't something negative, political, partisan-bashing, nor tabloid. In short, something the MSM won't bother to cover.

    The last reason is the reason why I love PBS, NPR, APM, and PRI.

    BL.
     
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    I love PBS because of Austin City Limits, and my kids love it because of Curious George.
     
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    I love PBS because of Frontline, the American Experience, and Nova.
     
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    Wow this is funny, my mom was mentioning this exact thing to me the other day which she too saw on PBS.
     
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    I love PBS because it is not owned by a lunatic Aussie ex-pat.
     
  9. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    PBS = politics whether the first post is controversial or not. Give it time. ;)
     
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    Actually, I see a huge political and social slant to this. Because there is still, at least in the U.S., a huge "tough it out" mentality, including both employers and employees. In two areas, transportation and medicine, there is a measurable effect on the safety of others. Now, we see it also has an effect on the long-term health of employees as well.

    Because of the need for a "level playing field", there definitely needs to be governmental regulation. Both employers (cost) and employees (income) will resist. Hence, PRSI. ;)
     
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    I started a seperate thread to specifically address sleep deprivation in PRSI.
     
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    Still waiting for the obligatory ''It's Obama's fault'' or ''the left hates bush'' comments.
     
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    It is worth noting that in socialist-leaning Britain the National Health Service expects its medical staff to work twelve-hour days, and frequently asks workers to stay on for an additional 12-hour shift if a replacement worker does not show up. (When I questioned them about the likelihood of making mistakes after working this long,they generally just shrugged and said it was better than not having staff.)

    Back when I was managing a manufacturing business, I quickly learned that there is a point of diminishing returns in labor scheduling. That beyond ~45/48 hours per week you actually get less production the more hours you schedule people to work. The error rate inevitably creeps up; and the amount of work done each hour quickly drops off as people get fatigued.

    You are right in that people in this country (the US) seem to take a perverse pride in bragging about how many hours they work. And yet I'm often amazed at how little actual productive activity seems to take place during these sixty+ hour weeks people are talking about.

    Its my personal belief that if you can't do the vast majority of your productive work in ~twenty to twenty five hours, with the rest of the time devoted to networking, future projects, personal development, etc. - you are probably either incompetent or basically ill-suited to the task at hand.
     
  14. Huntn thread starter macrumors G5

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    An interesting perspective!
     
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    Just to clarify, in places where there are 12 hour shifts in the UK, its quite common to do twelve hour shifts, and running it on a 4 days on 4 days off basis. Often staff will be asked to do overtime of an extra day as the NHS is short staffed.

    The reason staff do the overtime is that pay is low in the NHS, and unlike the US the UK provides healthcare as part of its social respnsibility to its residents and anyone who happens to be visiting at the time, thus staff are willing to "chip in" as it were. In the US healthcare is predominantly run for profit.

    Although I will admit the privatisation of the UK healthcare system has made it swing a little to the US style, which is an outright travesty in itself.
     
  16. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    I'm a huge fan of PBS. Always have been.

    Between Sesame Street and seeing lions eat Zebras, I was hooked.
     
  17. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    As Wikipedia would say...

    :)

    That may apply in some fields, but you obviously have never worked or managed technology.
     
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    Because we all know that the more lines of code you write, the better the program runs.......
     
  19. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    Did you say lines in a program, as in singular program? More evidence you've never worked technology, not mentioning the other skill positions in tech besides engineers/programers.

    It also begs the question of where else have you not worked in order to come up with that statement.

    Aside from technology, in most fields I know, management and senior management work far more hours than the line staff. So they are incompetent for working > 20-25 hours in their core discipline and not hanging at the coffee bar "networking"? Seriously, the audaciousness of your statement is staggering.
     
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    I don't know about that breakdown. In my own field, we can work 16 hour days to accomplish a task and this can be effective, albeit temporarily.

    Of course, most journalists would like to operate at this breakdown (even getting a few hours to just follow up on data requests would be huge), but the work has increasingly exceeded the number of hours available because the industry has compressed.

    Sure, but I would also note that management can operate with the idea that merely throwing more man-hours at a project will accomplish something without realizing they are grinding their staff into dust. A sustainable operation will give employees space for networking, development, future projects, etc. but the tendency has been toward treating everyone like a machine that can be replaced when it fails.

    I stopped working for that kind of shop years ago. Now we work like athletes: train hard, work hard, and dick around when there's downtime.
     
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    Maybe it is because as a manager I always made a point of rewarding and encouraging results over effort.

    There is a wealth of research that quite clearly indicates that in a very wide variety of fields over-work leads to diminishing returns. Especially in the technology field, which often requires the sort of "A-ha!" moments that occur only when we are not working. Google doesn't put in the Foosball tables and juice bars out of pure altruism. Nor do a host of Silicon Valley firms have their own take on "Twenty Percent Time" from the goodness of their heart.

    I don't doubt there are counterexamples. I doubt that the average Megatron or Foxconn worker could jigger together their daily quota of iPads or Galaxys by only working twenty hours. And I suppose the assistant manager at the local McDonalds really has to be there to prevent the spotty teenagers who work for her from running riot.

    But I stand by my assertion. Overwork is bad for people. Its bad for families. And in the long run its bad for companies too. Work smarter. Not longer.
     
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    It's also reflective of the unrealistic profit motives that drive many companies. Hey, we can have workers do 3 jobs for the price of one and we will have tripled our productivity!!! Sees $$ signs.

    And someone wanted to know why Conservatives HATE PBS or why this belongs in PRSI? They promote ideas that cost profits is one reason. :D
     
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    I watch PBS and history channel shows all the time. I feel like the wealth of knowledge these stations give out, it's incredible!
     
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    But overwork is a subjective term. Some employees are happy and productive working 80 hours a week and some struggle working more than 20. It really comes down to the manager recognizing the needs and strengths of their employees and coaxing the most productivity out of them. Bad managers never figure out how to do that.
     
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    Wow Just Wow, I live in Britain and did not know it was Socialist leaning. Having a Health service for all does not make it socialist just smart.
     

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