Why is Fox News the number one News Channel?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by tshrimp, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. tshrimp macrumors 6502

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    I see many posts here that state many bad things about Fox News. I am not saying in this post if they are good or bad, but why do you think they are consistently the number one News Channel?
     
  2. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Because they tell a certain segment of the population what they want to hear, rather than report the truth, which most don't want to hear.

    Pretty simple- give people what they want, even if it's a lie, and they'll eat it up. It's the oldest trick in the book.
     
  3. tshrimp thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Cool. Good answer. I am confused though, as I don't see why anyone would WANT to hear "lies".
     
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    Almost certainly the Chinese state media news channel is the number one news channel in the World.
     
  5. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Because if the lie fits their ideology, they would rather hear that than any truth that goes against what they believe. People do this all the time.
     
  6. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    I think for several reasons. The south has a large conservative base and covers a very large population. Then you have the format. I think Fox news is the best produced/directed which makes it kind of entertaining reguardless of how anti Dem/Liberal it is.

    Also I think more liberals and those who watch mostly CNN and MSNBC might occasionally watch Fox too. But conservatives and Fox viewers are just Fox viewers only and would never watch another news network.
     
  7. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    Because people who watch Fox News have a lot of time to sit around and watch TV and play the "ain't it awful" game for entertainment.
     
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    Nobodies ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the general public.
     
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    Then why does MSNBC do so poorly? They have basically copied the same format in the other extreme.

    The real reason is that there three networks that favor the liberal point of view and only one that favors the conservative side. If we are a 50-50 nation, Fox will have the highest ratings. They have no competition for their demographic.
     
  11. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    Conservatives have always watched more "news" or listened to more political radio shows than liberals. Rush rules the radio; Air America.... Does that even exist anymore? Religious people also need to hear people who agree with them. That's why religious programs on the radio in religious areas of the USA are so popular. How boring would an atheist station be? Nope, still no god...coming up next...nope not yet....
     
  12. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Why do they have high ratings?

    Fear mongering
    Telling people what they want to hear rather than the truth.

    The fact is, only 3.5 million people watch O'Reilly on a given night, their highest rated show. That's a really small percentage of the population.

    As for MSNBC, they have been beating FOX in the ratings for the coveted demo- ages 25-54.
     
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    I think that local Fox News is different than "Fox News" is it not?

    From what I can recall, there isn't really anything that biased about any of the local news stations. Perhaps Fox is just the most watched local news so it becomes #1?

    Idk.
     
  14. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Im pretty sure they directly compare the national news channel with the others and Fox wins.

    Fox local is just what you would expect from a local network. Boring!!!

    :p
     
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    Ah, if that's the case yeah Idk then. I wasn't sure if Fox News included local channels and stuff.

    I think they are all pretty bad, but I'm a bit partial to CNN. Not necessarily the specials (like Anderson Cooper and Blitzer or whatever) but just the general news.

    I get my read news from the NYT typically, and online from AlJazeera
     
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    They are number one among people who still watch "news channels" frequently. That says a lot about the kind of people still watching that crap--no matter what the channel. I envision pasty-white newly-retired DOFs screaming about socialism as they await their social security payment and medicare coverage.




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    Why oh why...

    [​IMG]

    And, that's just the blondes.

    (edit) Sorry, changed that to timg tags. Zombie, I have no problem with women anchors, or pretty women as anchors. I'm merely pointing out that FoxNews has a lot of very attractive female talent.
     
  18. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Do you have a problem with women being news anchors?
     
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    I don't watch TV news of any sort. It seems pointless to me. If I want news, I'll read it on the internet.

    That said, I would like to see the demographics of the people who watch Fox. I think we could learn a lot from that.
     
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    Wrong- liberals generally don't want a liberal version of Fox News. We don't want to be told what we want to hear. We'd rather seek the truth. I don't watch MSNBC or any other type of cable news. I reject MSNBC just as much as Fox News.

    And is the conservative POV really to lie about everything you don't agree with?
     
  22. dime21 macrumors 6502

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    Hahahaha! It's sad because you probably really believe that. In fact, I can't remember reading a more bigoted "We're right and they're wrong" assertion.

    Fox News is popular because the media is heavily left-wing biased. Conservatives rule talk radio, but they're a small minority in television, movies, etc. Fox News is that exception, and its a welcome breath of fresh air for those of us who can see through the propaganda impregnated in most other pop culture media.

    Conservative talk radio and Fox News is unpopular with leftists because they tell it like it is, straight up. They don't dance around the subject, or use subtle suggestion or innuendo.

    The left-wing media on the other hand does exactly the opposite - they weave their propaganda into television and movies in a more subtle way, influencing peoples thoughts and opinions without them even realizing it. One only needs to look a films like Avatar, to see far left ideals on display, and even extremist anti-US views. And then you have late night "comedy" shows like Jon Stewart, who spew leftist vitriol about current news events, while hiding behind the guise of comedy.
     
  23. hulugu, Sep 28, 2012
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    First, you have to define number one. Fox News is consistently the highest cable news channel in ratings, but it lags behind the ratings of ABC News and NBC News, including the morning shows.
    So, yes it's rated number one among a select group.

    Second, this doesn't really tell us about quality. To a point, lots of things are popular without being good (McDonalds and Windows come to mind immediately), and moreover, news consumers are radically fractured among different sources.

    So, CNN, HLN, and MSNBC all compete for a similar audience, but are counted by ratings as separate entities (even though HLN is basically just CNN content). And, there's an increasing shift away from mass media sources like television toward online media, which is even more fractional.

    Moreover, the TV news audience skews much older buoying the conservative Fox News network while CNN continues to lose it's young and liberal audience. CNN has been losing shares as Fox has been gaining, so there's a demographic shift at work.

    And, third, Fox News is entertaining, though not informative.

    If we measure news at a way to sell advertising, Fox News is number one, but, if we measure news as the ability to inform, Fox News is the worst organization around.

    By this argument, Fox News is incredibly unpopular and conservatism even more so. We are, apparently, an insanely liberal country because 25 million people saw James Cameron's "Avatar" on its opening weekend. It took Fox News an entire month of 24-7 coverage to get 1.27 million at their best.

    Assuming, we take the entire oeuvre of the Hollywood machine, 162 million people went to the movies in 2011. The music business sold 326 million CDs or digital downloads.

    In 2011, during prime time, 1.868 million people watched Fox News—lower than the 2.3 million who watched "The Daily Show."

    I think this argument is flawed, but by consequence, conservatism is a dying reactive movement, moments from being relegated to the dust-bin.

    You're right, they wear their obvious bias on their sleeve while using propaganda techniques, and every logical fallacy known, to make their arguments.

    I swear to god, I thought Rush Limbaugh was a comedy act too.
     
  24. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    Start crunching the numbers. GOP leaning at 33% of the population is 50% of foxes viewer ship.

    That means that no matter how you cut everything else that is going to show hwy it is so unbalanced.
     
  25. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Horse s***. The truth is that Fox lies so much, that there are entire sites dedicated to exposing them. They also went to court for the right to lie to their audience. They DON'T tell it like it is- they lie through their teeth daily. This has been proven over and over. You just proved my point that you simply want to be told what you want to hear.
     

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