Why would it be impossible to live with a nuclear Iran?

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  1. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    Given that Iran has never attacked it's neighbours for the last 500 years.

    What is the problem?
     
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    Did you forget about the war between Iran and Iraq in the 1980's?
     
  3. Happybunny thread starter macrumors 68000

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    No I have not, but Iraq your ally at the time attacked Iran. Iran only defended it's self.
     
  4. Andeavor macrumors 6502

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    It's not impossible but simply unwelcome. However, I'd love to see what happens if Iran had all the nuclear technologies, because I'm so sick of all the speculations.
     
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    Because Iran is crazy enough to join the exclusive club of nations crazy enough to use nuclear weapons... they certainly would use them as a big saber to rattle... and that is a big enough threat because energy speculators are already on edge.
     
  6. Happybunny thread starter macrumors 68000

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    So far only one crazy nation has ever used a nuclear weapon in anger.:(
     
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    At the moment Iran isn't a treat to the West. Yes they have 500,000 troops but they are abysmally trained and equipped, and have no to way to project power far. The best they could do would be a medieval style march!

    They get nukes and it's a different story, power projection extends rapidly and would be hard to defend against. The Iranian government is crazy and potentially unstable. Another revolution and who knows where the nukes could end up?

    The whole middle east region also has that delicious oil which we love so much.
     
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    In anger as opposed to what?

    In hindsight most everyone agrees that nukes are bad, but at the time (WW2) the U.S. calculated upwards toward 1,000,000 U.S. casualties if we had tried to take Japan using traditional invasion tactics. Better them, than us is a valid at war view point.

    All the world needs is to have nukes in the hands of terrorists/freedom fighters/ religious fanatics, your choice. The problem with a country like Iran is that they are controlled by religious fanatics, fanatics who if they felt like things were not going their way might decide to take a couple of countries down with them. Yes, that is just a perception. Of course the same could be said of Pakistan and N.Korea...
     
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    BS- the only reason any country wants nukes is so we can't invade them. I can't blame Iran for that.
     
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    Not to mention, as much as everyone wants to deny it, Israel has nukes.
     
  11. Sedulous macrumors 68000

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    Well, we've been knocking on their door for awhile.
    [​IMG]
     
  12. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    A sneak attack, naturally. ;) Isn't that the fear in the Region?
     
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    Iran's leadership has made it clear that they are committed to the total destruction of Israel and the Great Satan.

    Should be enough...
     
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    Fear that if those nuclear weapons get into the wrong hands they could cause a lot of damage, also because i simply hate nuclear weapons in general because they gave certain people some powers that are denied of others and i believe that everybody should be equal without having an advantage due to weapons.
     
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    I fear for a 2nd Cold War. That's it. Civilised countries should not get that close to destroying the entire planet.
     
  17. thekev macrumors 604

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    Guys... there's a lot of fear mongering taking place. Do you really believe any country is stupid enough to begin nuclear attacks given that the whole world would pretty much turn around and retaliate? Countries generally do not build such weapons with the intent to use them. They build them as a show of force.
     
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    Look at it from Iran's perspective. A poor but oil rich nation has just had two of its neighbors invaded by a rich but oil hungry superpower. The resulting wars have devastated the countries. It would be fool-hardy not to develop a deterrent capability of some sort and they already had some knowledge. I doubt it would be used in any capacity except as a deterrent or perhaps a bargaining chip (like North Korea did) due to MAD wrt both the US and Israel but, of course, you never know.
     
  19. Sedulous macrumors 68000

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    Don't worry, Iran is building nuclear weapons for peaceful purposes. Believe it or I'll destroy you.

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    I am sure you are about right, but there is that nagging fear that Iran would not be so stupid to engage the US in a symmetric nuclear battle. Asymmetric warfare is what they would be more likely to pursue if anything at all. This gives them deniability for a random nuclear "event" in some undesired nearby country.
     
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    Who denies Israel has nukes?
     
  21. iJohnHenry macrumors P6

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    Israel, well at least the number anyway. :)
     
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    Because that would give Iran an equal footing in nuclear capabilities to the likes of America, Israel, the UK, e.c.t.
     
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    Good afternoon Fuzzy. :)

    Equal footing, for an Islamic Republic, whatever the Hell that denotes.

    I don't think so. [​IMG]

    Bad enough that Pakistan has them, so counter India's. At least Pakistan can be bought with U.S. $$$, even though they are duplicitous with the Taliban like nobody's business.
     
  24. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    :p well that claim has now escalated to 500.....it's not true though
     
  25. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    Really, I heard the same claim, and it seemed preposterous. When did Iran invade a neighbor?
     

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