Will optical zoom ever come to the iPhone?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by outsidethebox, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. outsidethebox macrumors member

    Jan 10, 2008
    I always have digital zoom turned off because of the awful quality. Is there any specific reason why there still isn't optical zoom in the iPhone?

    With a quick google search I've discovered several phones since 2009 which have had the feature. Since the camera is one of the iPhones biggest selling points and zooming is such an important feature in any situation, I'm really surprised it hasn't really even been talked about much.
  2. iJustin63 macrumors newbie

    Nov 12, 2012
    New York
    I think optical zoom would be a great feature. I hope we see it in the near future :D
  3. nepalisherpa macrumors 68020


    Aug 15, 2011
    Can you list these phones? The reason why optical zooms are not widespread yet is the mechanical requirements and limited space available on slim phones.
  4. Mrbobb macrumors 601

    Aug 27, 2012
    I will have to disagree with that.

    I say iPhone's camara is there to be competitive but not the MAIN reason ppl choose an iPhone vs a competitor.

    Now optical mean movable lens. The OZ I seen have a bulge to accommodate the extra mechanicals. Will Apple give u OZ in lieu of a slick casing?

    A Sony? I remember seeing no bulge but they usen an internal right angle mechanism to deal with the physical focal lengh needed. Will Apple give out precious internal real estate for a future OZ camara?
  5. corvus32 macrumors 6502a

    Sep 4, 2009
    The next iPhone will be so big you won't need a zoom on the camera.
  6. 617aircav Suspended

    Jul 2, 2012
    Isnt the reason pretty obvious. OZ would require the phone to be thicker as its made up of movable parts. I doubt if it will be on any phone any time soon.
  7. Intell macrumors P6


    Jan 24, 2010
    It's possible that in the future, fluid based lenses will be able to provide optical zoom while using less space than current camera modules.
  8. charlituna macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    And when that future comes we'll have a shot at seeing optical zoom
  9. ThatsMeRight, Mar 23, 2013
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2013

    ThatsMeRight macrumors 68020

    Sep 12, 2009
    Perhaps not the main reason, but I believe that for many people it's an important reason. If people have a hard time choosing between phone X and iPhone, then the camera might be the decisive factor.
  10. AFDoc, Mar 24, 2013
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2013

    AFDoc macrumors 68030

    Jun 29, 2012
    Colorado Springs USA for now
    I really have to laugh at people such as you OP. Do you have an idea what it takes to make a zoom lens? The phone would have to be pretty thick to accommodate such a lens and of course that would cause far more people to whine above not having zoom.

    If you want tele lenses, buy a stand alone camera you'll be much happier with the results. IF you turn off the digi zoom, why would you want the crap zoom that would be placed into a phone?
  11. SAD*FACED*CLOWN macrumors 65816


    Apr 5, 2010
    Houston, TX
    There are telescopic lenses for the iPhone, some priced as cheap as $25
  12. sulpfiction macrumors 68030


    Aug 16, 2011
    Philadelphia Area
    If the phone had optical zoom, and was in fact thicker in the camera region...why would that cause people to "whine about not having zoom"? I don't understand ur statement.
  13. AFDoc macrumors 68030

    Jun 29, 2012
    Colorado Springs USA for now
    I see you've been a member starting in 2011 so it leads me to believe you don't pay attention to these forums at all. Have you NOT seen the whining with every new release of the iPhone that's it's not thin enough? OR the "I want quad core, 500gig ram, 500gig space AND thin as paper.

    Come on now, an iPhone with a "hump" to accommodate a zoom lense? Yeah right.
  14. sulpfiction macrumors 68030


    Aug 16, 2011
    Philadelphia Area
    I've seen many, many posts with people whining about how the new iPhone isn't good enough..etc, etc, etc. but ur statement says IF apple did incorporate an optical zoom, and was "bumped out" in the camera region..People would "whine" about NOT having zoom. But it WOULD have zoom in ur scenario. That's the whole point.
  15. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
    Agreed. No way would Apple include optical zoom.
  16. seble macrumors 6502a

    Sep 6, 2010
    observe this camera: Sony TX5


    It is almost as slim as an old iphone say a 2G, it has no external moving parts, is tiny, and has an optical zoom. Yes it's probably not possible on the thinness that is the iP5, but it is possible!
  17. MuddyPaws1 macrumors 6502

    Jul 14, 2012
  18. rocknblogger macrumors 68020


    Apr 2, 2011
    New Jersey
    I don't think we'll see it soon but I also think if the can develop an optical zoom that adds minimal thickness to the overall design and Apple marketed it as revolutionary and incredibly ahead of its time, then I think the public would not only accept it but they would eat it up. I truly believe this.
  19. John T macrumors 68020

    John T

    Mar 18, 2006
    Pardon? The 2G was 11.6mm in depth. The Sony is 18mm - hardly thin!!
  20. Agent-P macrumors 68030


    Dec 5, 2009
    The Tri-State Area
    At this point in time we don't have the technology to put optical zoom on phones without making them significantly thicker. But I hope we can manage that relatively soon as digital zoom sucks.
  21. R.Stoychev macrumors 6502a


    Dec 23, 2012
    One day we will see some awesome smarthphones cameras :)
  22. Partridge macrumors 6502

    Jul 28, 2007
    It uses a prism folded zoom lens. The camera mechanism extends down the entire side of that camera using a prism to bend the light path at a right angle.

    There is absolutely no way apple would do that and sacrifice volume that could be used for making the phone thinner or the battery lighter.
  23. Mrbobb macrumors 601

    Aug 27, 2012

    Frankly am waiting for something even better. There is apparently a technology out there that, OK you took a blurry picture, but the system, having captured the raw photons and through whatever algorithm blah-blah, intelligently re-shapes the picture to makes it sharp.

    Up to now, despite ever denser sensors, we are still constricted by physical lens, with all their limitations to do the focusing.
  24. cdmoore74 macrumors 68020

    Jun 24, 2010
    With Apple so obsessed with making the phone thin I doubt it. I see Android getting true optical zoom first. It's like the I.R. port. It's finally made a comeback on Android.

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