Will the Green and Libertarian candidates join the fall debates?

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    It will be interesting to see of the DNC/GOP debates will be closed to Green, Libertarian, or independent candidates. I susepct that the Republicrat duopoly will invoke some convenient "law" that precludes any other party from joining the debate.
     
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    No law per se. Just the pressure of the Republican and Democratic parties to keep them out.
     
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    And the media is happy to do so
     
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    I'm sure the two parties will do their best to shut them out. However, Bernie will be the loudest voice demanding that they be allowed to participate. The DNC will have little choice since they risk offending Bernie supporters if they don't permit third parties to debate. The GOP is probably less concerned about it.
     
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    Green, no. They will not meet the minimum threshold of 10% polling. However the libertarian party just might meet that target, we shall see. I hope that they do. It would be great to see a third party in both the main candidate debates as well as the VP one.
     
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    The DNC's minimum 10% threshold? That means nothing and Bernie's people know it. Play that B.S. rule at your (i.e. Hillary's) own risk.
     
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    Excellent points, though the media is usually drawn more to what brings in the big ratings since that means more profit. I don't think there's as much a conspiracy as there is basic profit motive. Now ideally, our government would have an equal time clause and have a set amount of tax money for each registered party and disallow outside donations or input entirely to keep a republic's values unfettered. Until then, all the fair complaints of "that candidate is getting so much more free air time" has more to do with the media companies wanting to make money than to care about how this country is governed - at least until regulations on how it might have to work are put into place. And not all of those regulations are just, either.
     
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    I'd reply to your comment if I could make any sense of it. But I can"t. Can you explain more? Are you saying there shouldn't be any criteria? And considering we are talking general election debates here, this is beyond the scope of merely the DNC. This wouldn't be a DNC debate.
     
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    As if, parties somehow get to operate without the oversight of law. They seem to be able to make their rules, and make them no matter who objects and even though they have a huge say in who this nation's leader is... yet not many or in some cases no laws are on the books to control their behavior across the country or state by state. We are at the whim of a political organization that has no legal standing and it is so odd to me that it is a real thing.
     
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    What threshold would you suggest?
     
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    it looks like it's the Commission on Presidential Debates that organizes debates in the general election, and it appears that 15% is the threshold..........too high in my opinion

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    I'd say 5% was sensible.

    But that said in the last election no non top 2 party got more than 1%, back in 2000 the greens got 2.74%.
     
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    I'd say being on the ballot in enough states to theoretically win the election should be the criteria. Probably for lower polling candidates there is no need to give them as much time but if people see them in the debates they have a better chance as being seen as viable.
     
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    Off the top of my head, any party with 250,000 or greater membership seems reasonable.
     
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    That would let the libertarians in but not the greens. To be fair they are close enough they'd meet the threshold.
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    That would let in the greens and the libertarians. That would work.
     
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    You know that for sure? I expect both parties have seen a surge in membership over the past few months. I'm sure whatever number the DNCGOP came up with would exclude both of them.
     
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    I looked at their Wikipedia pages. The greens membership is 248,000.
     
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    This would be more to my liking. I'd like to see 4 or 5 people in the debate.
     
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    That was 2014. I'm sure their membership has increased greatly this election season. Anyway 250K was an arbitrary number.
     

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