Will the Real Khizr Khan please stand up? (or down, as the case may be …)

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by FieldingMellish, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. FieldingMellish Suspended

    Jun 20, 2010
    It was just a matter of time before Khan’s interests would be discovered. Shame that Khizr Khan utilized his fallen soldier patriot son to further his, and Democratic, objectives.

    As usual with the Democrats, give it a name, get all self-righteous about it, and then rake in the dough.

    “The father of a Muslim-American soldier killed in Iraq who is caught up in a war of words with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is an immigration lawyer who specializes in a highly controversial program accused of letting immigrants buy their way into the U.S.”

    “It also said that he helps in the purchase of U.S. real estate and businesses. The website lists his ability to practice in New York, though it gives a Washington phone number for the lawyer who lives in Virginia. A man who answered the phone said the website was correct, though he would not identify himself.”

    "The E-2 and EB-5 are two of the most notoriously abused visa categories that essentially allow wealthy foreigners to buy their way to U.S. residency, and possibly citizenship, with a relatively modest investment," said Jessica Vaughan, the policy director for the Center for Immigration Studies.”

    “The EB-5 program has been caught up in multiple scandals and critics are pressing Congress to kill it.

    "The EB-5 is literally a 'citizenship for sale' program in which a visa for a whole family can be bought for as little $500,000," Vaughan told Secrets. "It is literally a 'citizenship for sale' program, and it's an amazing deal. Compared to other countries, America is the Walmart of investor visa programs," she added.

    One criticism is that it allows an immigrant to invest $500,000 in an approved type of business and in return get a set of green cards for the investor, the investor's spouse, and all their under 21-years-of-age children.”

  2. CaptMurdock Suspended


    Jan 2, 2009
    The Evildrome Boozerama
    Wow. It's been how many days since his speech at the DNC?

    The GOP BS generator is getting slow.
  3. thermodynamic Suspended


    May 3, 2009
    Sounds like good stout business practices, that anyone can freely do. I doubt the Democratic party has a monopoly on this sort of practice. Especially when Democrats and liberals are constantly accused of being communist, anti-business, and so on (despite chumming up to Wall Street, Hollywood, and other huge business venues.)

    Great catch, otherwise. The Democrats should be ashamed regarding this issue and using racism as a wedge issue instead of a human rights issue.
  4. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    ... and he was likely stoned when he went out for that Arizona Ice Tea and Skittles.
  5. jkcerda macrumors 6502a


    Jun 10, 2013
    Criminal Mexi Midget
    the guy is a capitalist entrepreneur? sweet.
  6. blackfox macrumors 65816


    Feb 18, 2003
  7. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    I heard he has ties to Huma Abedin and the Muslim Brotherhood.
  8. iShater macrumors 604


    Aug 13, 2002
    Oh! Well, in that case that makes this family's sacrifice not valid.

  9. HEK macrumors 68040


    Sep 24, 2013
    US Eastern time zone
    Sounds like a closet republican. Hey all you right wingers should be happy, paying immigrants. You always seem to complain about how immegrants get all these free things. the EB-5 program holds to best American traditions. Like buy your way in. Trump should be on this guy 's side.
  10. Robisan, Aug 1, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 1, 2016

    Robisan macrumors 6502

    Jan 19, 2014
    But does he have granite counter tops? (cf)
  11. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a


    Dec 29, 2014
    Shocked. Not.
    --- Post Merged, Aug 1, 2016 ---
    His son sacrificed. Mom and pop just tried to ride the DNC gravy train on national TV. Sometimes it's just better to stay home and keep your mouth shut.
  12. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Trump should take your advice more often than not
  13. iShater macrumors 604


    Aug 13, 2002
    Your understanding of sacrifice is incorrect.

    Sometimes you have to stand up and speak when bigots are trying to belittle and dehumanize you, and that is what they did.

    And I will let John Oliver say the rest of what needs to be said:

  14. FieldingMellish thread starter Suspended

    Jun 20, 2010
    Howard Kurtz said the obvious.

    That the media have the Khans an enormous platform—in a way they conspicuously declined to do when Patricia Smith blamed Hillary Clinton at the Republican convention for the death of her son in Benghazi.
  15. steve knight macrumors 68020

    steve knight

    Jan 28, 2009
    Man that's like a 10 mile reach there huh?
  16. zioxide macrumors 603


    Dec 11, 2006
    Trumpets don't fall far from the tree eh?

    You gotta be a real douche to attack a Gold Star family.
  17. AsherN macrumors 6502

    May 11, 2016
    Other than, the Khans did not blame Trump for their son's death. And Smith was not active military when he died, the Patricia tried to put the blame on Clinton, even after a dozen Republican inquiries cleared her.
  18. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    The media didn't even pick up the Khan story until they went viral on social media. Maybe if Fox didn't interrupt Ms. Smith's speech to take a phone call from Trump, the story may have gotten more traction. Yes, Donald Trump actually called into Fox News while Smith was speaking at HIS CONVENTION.
  19. FieldingMellish thread starter Suspended

    Jun 20, 2010
    While Khan excoriated Trump for his alleged lack of sacrifice, Khan didn't bring up the same for other presidents or pres wannabes including Obama, W, and Hillary. Kind'a would'a diluted Khan's line of attack.
  20. WarHeadz macrumors 6502a


    Aug 30, 2015
    Long Beach, California
    Sounds like someone is salty. :)
  21. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    The others aren't running all across the country demonizing Muslims. Deal with it Fielding, some MUslim dude waving a pocket Constitution has caused Trump more problems than anything else. And the icing on the cake is he perpetuated the story for 5 days.
  22. PracticalMac macrumors 68030


    Jan 22, 2009
    Houston, TX
    Look at the history of EB-5.

    Created in 1992 under Bush Sr.
    Report in 2005 under Bush Jr. said it was not resulting in enough immigrants.
    Modified under Obama in 2011 to attract more applicants.

    It is an REPUBLICAN policy, so the fact Obama and Democrats make use of it is a secondary point.
  23. zioxide macrumors 603


    Dec 11, 2006
    Lol, what?

    None of Obama, W, or Hillary want to discriminate against people based on their religion. None of Obama, W, or Hillary ever engaged in religious-based fear mongering.

    Face it. Your guy is a piece of **** who hates the Constitution and got bitch slapped into his place by a Muslim-American and his pocket constitution.
  24. FieldingMellish, Aug 2, 2016
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2016

    FieldingMellish thread starter Suspended

    Jun 20, 2010
    Meanwhile, an American military member wrote an open letter to Khizr Khan.


    Authored by Ray Starmann, Editor-in-Chief, US Defense Watch.

    Truncated for brevity, the author starts with this:

    “Dear Mr. Khan:

    I, like millions of Americans saw your speech at the DNC on Thursday night.

    I wish to offer my sympathy for the death of your son, Captain Humayun Khan, who was killed in action in Iraq.

    As a former US Army officer, and a veteran of the Gulf War, I can certainly understand the pain and anguish that you and your wife endure every day.

    Your son died saving the lives of his fellow soldiers. As Jesus told his disciples according to the Gospel of John, Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

    Captain Khan is a hero. I am sure the soldiers he served with regard him as one. I know you and your wife do. Rest assured that millions of veterans regard your son as a hero as well.”

    Later on, the author gets into this:

    “When you and your family arrived to America from Pakistan, you assimilated into our country. You adopted American ways, learned our history and apparently you even acquired a pocket Constitution along the way. Good for you sir.

    But, there are many Muslims in America who not only have no desire to assimilate, but wish to live under Sharia Law.

    That is unacceptable to Americans. There is only one law of the land. That is the US Constitution.

    As you well know, Mr. Khan, we live in violent times, dangerous times. Muslim madmen from ISIS and other radical Jihadi groups are on a murder and terror spree across the globe.

    Your religion of peace, Islam, is anything but that in 2016. That is a fact that is confirmed every time a Muslim shoots, bombs, beheads and tortures innocent men, women and children. This does not mean that every Muslim is a terrorist, but most terrorists, sir, are indeed Muslims.

    A Muslim terrorist attack has become the sign of the times.

    Regardless of what the feckless, naïve, leftist ideologue Barack Obama and his dimwitted colleagues John Kerry, Francois Hollande and Angela Merkel state, the United States and the West are at war with Radical Islam. It is the job of the President of the United States to protect his nation from all enemies; foreign and domestic. Unfortunately, Mr. Obama romanticizes Islam and refuses to accept reality, which has resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent people across the world.”

    And ….. the author wrote some more, seen at the link above.
  25. zioxide macrumors 603


    Dec 11, 2006

    Joseph Goebbels called. He wants his letter back.

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