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To buy or not to buy?

  • Yes

    Votes: 42 56.8%
  • No

    Votes: 25 33.8%
  • Moving to Pixel

    Votes: 7 9.5%

  • Total voters
    74

SmugMaverick

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I mean no new features or designs, just under the hood fixes.

Would you go and drop $1000+ again on a slightly faster model with a camera that'll probably be behind Google again.

I have a 256gb X and unless iOS 12 is a big design change with new features I fail to see the point now.

And no they notch will not be smaller, it will look exactly the same but we'll get a gold model this time that was leaked last year.
 

MacDawg

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Mar 20, 2004
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The camera is more than I need already and I've never felt the need to compare to other phones
The notch is a non-issue for me as I haven't noticed it from day one of having my X
I haven't had any problems with iOS 11 at all either, and don't have anything on my wish list for iOS 12

So yes, I am on the Apple upgrade program, so once the new iPhone comes out, I'll just make the swap
 

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When I consider upgrading, I look at the hardware and what features entice me first. But iOS is the main factor why I stay with Apple regardless if iOS 12 is overhauled or not. I can look past the little imperfections with iOS and appreciate it simplicity and security. But the iPhone is the only phone I would consider upgrading on an annual basis.
 

joeblow7777

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I mean no new features or designs, just under the hood fixes.

Would you go and drop $1000+ again on a slightly faster model with a camera that'll probably be behind Google again.

I have a 256gb X and unless iOS 12 is a big design change with new features I fail to see the point now.

And no they notch will not be smaller, it will look exactly the same but we'll get a gold model this time that was leaked last year.

Why would ios 12 be the deciding factor for whether you upgrade your hardware or not? You know that it will run on your current X too, right?
 

teeshot44

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Aug 8, 2015
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Unfair to try to separate the two. I don't buy a new iPhone based on software. I buy based on the combination of software and iPhone features. Each software upgrade will generally work well going out 2-3 device upgrades except for features that the new iPhone offers that the previous doesn't or can't.
 
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Why would ios 12 be the deciding factor for whether you upgrade your hardware or not? You know that it will run on your current X too, right?

The OP is implying if iOS 12 is rumored to be an incremental build over iOS 11 in terms of refinements and repairs, Thus resulting in why would somebody be interested in upgrading to the “iPhone 11/11 Plus” if iOS 12 was similar in the sense of what we already know about iOS 11. Also, I suspect very few hardware Changes for the iPhone 11, aside from the heavily rumored 6.5 Plus model.
 
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DNichter

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Apr 27, 2015
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Yes. I will upgrade again this year. On the upgrade program through Verizon so no real reason not to. I look forward to screen improvements, a new processor, improved camera, and Face ID 2.
 
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joeblow7777

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The OP is implying if iOS 12 is rumored to be an incremental build over iOS 11 in terms of refinements and repairs, Thus resulting in why would somebody be interested in upgrading to the “iPhone 11/11 Plus” if iOS 12 was similar in the sense of what we already know about iOS 11. Also, I suspect very few hardware Changes for the iPhone 11, aside from the heavily rumored 6.5 Plus model.

I get that, and I understand upgrading if you’re coming from a device that will probably struggle with another major OS update (or won’t support it at all), but does anyone with a 1 year old device buy a whole new phone just because it comes with a new OS that you also get for free on your current phone?

I know that people worry about updates “crippling” their devices, but lets be real, if the X, 8, 8 Plus, or any phone for that matter takes a notable hit in performance after 1 major update that means it was never a good phone to begin with. I doubt that iOS 12 will be at all taxing to the current generation of devices. The OP seems to be suggesting that iOS 12 will be incentive to buy a new phone, or reason not to.
 

BarracksSi

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I get that, and I understand upgrading if you’re coming from a device that will probably struggle with another major OS update (or won’t support it at all), but does anyone with a 1 year old device buy a whole new phone just because it comes with a new OS that you also get for free on your current phone?

I know that people worry about updates “crippling” their devices, but lets be real, if the X, 8, 8 Plus, or any phone for that matter takes a notable hit in performance after 1 major update that means it was never a good phone to begin with. I doubt that iOS 12 will be at all taxing to the current generation of devices. The OP seems to be suggesting that iOS 12 will be incentive to buy a new phone, or reason not to.
Maybe it's a mindset that comes from other manufacturers' phones failing to receive OS updates within a year of launch.

Pretty bad way to treat a customer, IMO. Never mind convenience features, either -- why do people who buy older phones have to be saddled with out-of-date security measures?

To the question posed by the OP --

No, it'd make no difference to me how much is done to update iOS 12. If it's under-the-hood stuff, then it'll run better (win); if it's some new features that make it easier and/or more capable, then it'll be better (win). I'll either keep using my SE (which I'm pretty sure would run iOS 12) or get an X.
 

Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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Notch will be there. And I am never a fan of it. But if it is not there, I might consider upgrading or just grabbing a new phone. I don’t know.
 
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Endorphine88

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I don't see how the iOS has anything to do with deciding whether to upgrade or not. I just want a larger X. Having grown accustomed to the dimensions and the battery life of the plus, I can't see myself going back to a smaller device.
 

tkukoc

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Sep 16, 2014
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Not a chance I'm buying any new hardware (phones/ipads) from Apple this year. IOS 12 is going to be a missed opportunity just like IOS 11, they need a major shake up! Love how you added pixel has a choice for the poll.. have thought about that as a secondary phone but haven't purchased one yet... maybe this is the year?

Still really hoping Apple shocks me with IOS 12.. but any new phone they release this year is essentially an S series device, minor changes with the same buggy OS with a lot of restrictions. Time to open things up a bit. Not asking for android openness but good grief every time I go to a keynote that's all I end up talking about with other programmers. Apple has a great system.. but needs to loosen it up a bit to allow programmers to fully enhance things.
 
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raqball

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Notch will be there. And I am never a fan of it. But if it is not there, I might consider upgrading or just grabbing a new phone. I don’t know.

Yawn.... What does the notch have to do with the topic of this thread? Can we have ONE thread where the X is discussed without the notch hate creeping into it?

Anywho, I've not really had many issues with iOS 11.. Yes there are a few bugs but in my opinion it's nowhere even close to being as bad as some make it out to be.

I am all for Apple doing refinements and enhancements with iOS 12.
 

mnsportsgeek

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Feb 24, 2009
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I will definitely be upgrading next year. My iPhone 6 needs to get replaced. I have not yet decided if I'll get the next iteration of the X or if I'll get the cheaper LCD version.

I would have upgraded this year but I couldn't justify $1150+tax for a device that I will mostly just browse reddit and twitter on. If the next version of the X is under $999 and comes with 128gb of storage I'll probably get that.
 

d5aqoëp

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Feb 9, 2016
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I am using iPhone 7 Plus and didn't buy the X because of the notch and nonsensical price. For me, the main factor would come down to price. I don't see sense in buying a phone above $800 for WhatsApp, Twitter and little photos here and there.

However, I would also want iOS to get a new skin/redesign because the current shrill white design is 6 year old now and is getting boring.
 

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Kind of sad that we create these threads for the sole purpose of giving people are hard time about their buying decisions.

Its Just a reminder that a tech forum is a small Vocal minority that focuses on every little discrepancy or issue about Apple, Being most consumers happily use their iPhones every day without dissecting everything wrong with iOS 11 or the iPhone in general.
 
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apolloa

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Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
I mean no new features or designs, just under the hood fixes.

Would you go and drop $1000+ again on a slightly faster model with a camera that'll probably be behind Google again.

I have a 256gb X and unless iOS 12 is a big design change with new features I fail to see the point now.

And no they notch will not be smaller, it will look exactly the same but we'll get a gold model this time that was leaked last year.

I am PRAYING that iOS 12 dumps ALL premise of any new features and just fixes the mess that iOS 11 is....
 

eyeseeyou

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Feb 4, 2011
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Notch will be there. And I am never a fan of it. But if it is not there, I might consider upgrading or just grabbing a new phone. I don’t know.

Not having a notch or as little of a notch as possible, for my preference, would be a selling point.

Currently do not have any outstanding issues or complaints about iOS 11 and the camera, although software wise is behind the pixel, is still amazing.
 

Endorphine88

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Feb 12, 2018
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Its Just a reminder that a tech forum is a small Vocal minority that focuses on every little discrepancy or issue about Apple, Being most consumers happily use their iPhones every day without dissecting everything wrong with iOS 11 or the iPhone in general.
So what examples are there of things that are wrong with iOS 11? I haven't come across anything and I consider myself pretty critical when it comes to tech. Am I oblivious to whatever is happening?
 

44267547

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So what examples are there of things that are wrong with iOS 11?

My post never indicated anything wrong with iOS 11. What I was saying, was that there are those on a tech forum who find every discrepancy and dissect everything wrong with iOS 11 for their own reasons, where the average consumer likely doesn’t have an issue or notice imperfections with iOS 11 as much as tech enthusiast would.
 
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ggibson913

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Even with all the flaws (battery thing is the only one I can think of) in iOS 11, I still prefer it to Android. When I have gone to Android, I always regret it and want to come back to iPhone as quickly as possible.
 
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