Windows 7 fails to staunch bleeding as Windows market share slide resumes

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  1. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142978/Windows_market_share_slide_resumes

    Microsoft’s Windows 7 fails to staunch bleeding as Windows market share slide resumes

    Microsoft's Windows resumed its usual losing form last month as the operating system's usage share dropped by about a third of a point even as the new Windows 7 posted a second straight month of impressive gains, Web metrics firm Net Applications said Friday.

    Although rival desktop operating systems -- Mac and Linux -- essentially remained flat, mobile OSes, including Google's Android and Apple's iPhone OS, took up the slack created by Windows' dip. Mobile operating systems, said Net Applications, now power 1.3% of all the hardware that surfs the Internet.

    Windows finished the year with a 92.2% share, down 0.3 of a percentage point. It was the eighth month in 2009 during which Windows lost share.

    As it did in 2008, Windows' decline again accelerated in the second half of the year, when it lost 1.2 points of share. That compared to a drop of just 0.5 of a percentage point in the first six months of 2009. In 2008, Windows also lost more than twice as much share between July and December as it did in the preceding six months.

    But the slip doesn't mean Windows is in any danger of losing its grip on the operating system market anytime soon: At the pace of the last 12 months, Windows would retain a majority share for another 25 years.

    As in November, both Windows XP and Windows Vista lost share in December, while Windows 7 gained ground. Unlike in November, however, Windows 7 was unable to make up for the decline in Microsoft's older operating systems.

    Windows XP slid 1.3 percentage points in December, its second-largest one-month decline ever. (The record remains November, when XP lost 1.4 points.) Vista, meanwhile, lost 0.7 of a percentage point, a single-month record, to end at 17.9%. December was the second month in a row that Vista lost share, and the third in the last four months, a trend that points to a permanent decline as users abandon it for Windows 7.

    Still, the bulk of Microsoft's losses since the Windows 7 launch on Oct. 22 have been from Windows XP; the eight-year-old OS has lost 2.7 points in the last two months, while Vista has lost only 1 point.

    Microsoft's newest OS, on the other hand, boosted its share by 1.7 percentage points to end December with 5.7%, meaning that approximately 1 out of every 18 machines on the Web ran Windows 7 last month. If it can keep up the pace of the last 60 days, Windows 7 will crack 7% this month, beating Vista to that number by six months.

    Windows 7 also reached a milestone on Jan. 1, 2010, when it posted an 8% share for the day. The previous one-day record of 7.6% had been set on Dec. 27, 2009.

    Apple's Mac OS X dipped for the second month in a row, finishing December with 5.1% after a decline of a statistically insignificant 0.01 of a percentage point. Most months, however, Mac OS X posts gains, not losses: December was only the fifth month of 2009 in which Apple's operating system lost share.

    The winner, according to Net Applications: mobile operating systems, which accounted for 1.3% of all OSes powering devices that browsed the Internet in December. Although their shares remained small -- the largest was Java Platform, Micro Edition, with just 0.53%, followed by the iPhone OS with 0.44% -- month-over-month increases were dramatic in some cases. Google's Android operating system, for example, increased its share by nearly 56% between November and December, while RIM and the iPhone boosted their shares by 22% and 20%, respectively.

    Net Applications measures operating system usage by tracking the machines that surf to the 40,000 sites it monitors for clients, which results in a pool of about 160 million unique visitors each month. It then weights share by the estimated size of each country's Internet population.

    December's operating system data can be found on Net Applications' site.

    Gregg Keizer covers Microsoft, security issues, Apple, Web browsers and general technology breaking news for Computerworld. Follow Gregg on Twitter @gkeizer, send e-mail at gkeizer@ix.netcom.com or subscribe to Gregg's RSS feed .
     
  2. ABG macrumors 6502

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    Bizarre (and sad) that you re-titled the article :confused:
    Thanks for the link though. Always good to see endless percentages being discussed sans any economic / market discussion.

    So.. only 25 years for Microsoft to somehow stop that huge blood loss.
    (Unless big business trusts Win7 to replace XP, in which case its more likely that following a recession the figures will pick up.)
     
  3. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    Let's get this straight:

    Windows machines are still the source of 92% of the web browsing that this company monitors...

    Browsing under Mac OS was still at 5% and ...

    Mobile OS's comprise just over 1%, with Java phones slightly leading iPhones.

    I'd say that the last sentence is far more surprising than finding out that Windows is still far and away the most popular browsing platform.
     
  4. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Nothing to do about Windows 7 (except maybe to reiterate how good it is compared to Vista and XP) but everything to do about how MS is missing out on the handheld market.
     
  5. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I stumbled upon this thread only not to be surprised. Time for some new content.

    Clarkdale + Windows 7 is going to be a hit.
     
  6. FX120 macrumors 65816

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    I agree. The PC/ Desktop market is pretty much saturated at this point, everyone who has a computer is connected to the internet. What this indicates to me is that the number of Windows users has remained more or less the same, there have been really small gains to the number of linux and OS X users, and really large gains to the number of mobile users and as such the overall number of users across all platforms decreasing everyone else's share.
     
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    Microsoft of a public corporation. As such, its success depends its ability to attract investment dollars primarily through the sale of its stock. Investors prefer growth businesses. Windows may still retain 92% of web browsing hits. However, it is not growing. This being the case, investors will look around for growing businesses for their stock purchases.
     
  8. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I sure missed out on AMD. :(
     
  9. clevin macrumors G3

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    bs. which MS stock holder dont know MS is making more money on Office than OS? and for what reason do you think the stock holder would be worry about 92% marketshare?
     
  10. chill. macrumors 6502

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    lol i also felt this way


    microsoft doesn't only make a PC OS. they are branching out a lot into several different directions, xbox 360, zune, bing, etc. and in these markets they definitely have room to grow
     
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    They may have room to grow, but what they don't have is profit.

    The OS business is profitable, but losing share. Next.
     
  12. ArrowSmith macrumors regular

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    Who cares about market share when Apple makes 50% of the profits on new desktop/laptop/smartphone/digital player computer sales? The other 50% going to like a dozen other companies! That is possibly the most amazing stat in the history of business! :apple:

    Some perspective though - in fiscal 2008(a horrible down year for MSFT) they still had 3x the net income per month of Apple.
     
  13. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    add to it the OS is a realtitiy small part of Microsoft power. the real money for Microsoft is in Office, and in servers.

    The current big thing from Microsoft that people like *LTD* have zero clue about is sharepoint.

    From people I talk to who are in the bussiness are telling me that it is the big thing everyone is pushing for. But this is all behind the sense enterpise level stuff. Things that I do not expect an apple fanboy to have any clue about because apple main focus is on the consumer market.

    that being said there is nothing wrong with apple main focus. Hell I think apple made the right move focusing on consumer world and just putting a little of its focus on the Enterprise world. Microsoft focuses on the enterprise world and then puts a little interest in the consumer world. Very different view points and marketing.
    Both companies do really well at there respective main focuses.
     
  14. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    While I completely agree and have no problem with that, I wonder why MS hasn't paid more attention to the smartphone and PDA market since that is very enterprise-oriented? They nearly had a lock on the market when the iPAQ appeared but everything has seemed to fizzle since then.
     
  15. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    I have wondered that as well but I think what hurt them in the smartphone market was RIM with its blackberries. Blackberry got its push email done really well back when bandwith on cells was very limited and then it tied in to the MS exchanged and other systems really well. Blackberry cornered the enterprise market in cells before there were even smart phones.

    The handhelds and pocket PC never really took off so it was hard for MS to corner that.

    Windows mobile kind of got hammer by RIM and Nokia OS. All the iPhone and Android have done is just finish it off. From what I can tell Microsoft is taking this chance with its low market share to complete reinvent windows mobile and bring it up to par with the modern mobile OS. Something RIM is struggling to do because of its size. All in all I am really kind of wondering how Window mobile 7 will be. Big time since it will not be tied to having to be just an upgrade of windows mobile 6.5.

    Apple did something like that when it went from OS 9 to OSX. Since it had so little market share at the time it had nothing to loose with the change. MS and its computer OS had to make the change much more slowly because it could not hurt it core customers.

    I see the iPhone OS will run into problems in the future if it just holds it current market share. Apple will struggle to update that OS as it ages. Right now iPhones OS is roughly 2 years old. Apple can keep updating it as time goes on but after a while some one will be able to really get the jump on them because they will not have the dead weight of a current core customer base. Changing is hard when you are the market leader.
     
  16. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    The disparity between iPhone and iPod Touch products is already starting to show up. A controlled portable ecosystem is supposed to avoid these problems. You can only keep those older models going for so long.

    I do remember a few classmates with their iPaqs and the PC Card 802.11b. That feels like ages ago.
     
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    Yes, but MS has proven you can still bring great things forward while retaining backward compatibility, witness Windows 7. Perhaps Apple can do the same with iPhone OS.

    MS should have gone after the Blackberry from the get-go but I can see that large corps can sometimes be ponderous as, ironically, RIM is now.
     
  18. ArrowSmith macrumors regular

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    Of course Apple is immune to "big corporate" syndrome. They are super agile as if they were a start-up, right....
     
  19. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    what the hell are you smoking. Apple is not immuned from it. New product allow quick changes but new one not so much.



    Look how many years it took Microsoft to change. And they started dumping some of the backwards compatibility of there OS. A lot of older software just will not work on Windows 7 or even vista and by older I mean stuff using windows 9.x stuff. It just does not play nice with it. But it took Microsoft 3 OS from when it started changing off of windows 9.x to NT and they still have to carry some of it.

    Now yeah microsoft in the past should of gone after RIM and its the patents it holds on Push technology. Blackberry still are the only phones out there with true push capabilities.

    I think in the future OSX is going to run into some of the same problems windows had with XP. It will reach a point it will have a hard time transitions into the next thing. It took Microsoft 7 years make the change into a modern OS. Apple manage to get it out the door 2 years before a more modern OS was needed and it was set up with great wireless setting. XP biggest draw back was it was old and we demanded it to do things it was never designed to handle. Now windows 7 made the changes I am willing to bet will hold its own for a long while. I think OSX will hit that brick wall after a while and the dead weight of its raw age and legacy support will hurt it and this time the change will be a lot harder because they will have a lot of users. Back when it made the change apple was on dieing and needed it. It had a little to lose and a lot to gain. The next time it will have a lot it risk losing for little to gain.
     
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    But there's very very few programs that you can not get to run. You just might need to fiddle around with DOSBox or compatibility settings. It's nothing like the transition from OS 9 to OS X.

    Oh yeah, and what's up with the title of the thread..?

    EDIT: *LTD* Are you serious? The title of the computerworld article is Windows market share slide resumes
    Windows 7, mobile operating systems make biggest gains
    . Talk about a MS Hater/Apple Fanboi!
     
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    Macforums seems to encourage mindless MSFT-bashing.
     
  22. *LTD* thread starter macrumors G4

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    MSFT and its generally third-rate products seem to encourage MSFT bashing on APPLE FANSITES. Wow. No one saw that coming! Geez . . .
     
  23. MisterMe macrumors G4

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    Why does a Windows fan join a Mac fansite?
     
  24. ArrowSmith macrumors regular

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    Does spending $1100 on a 13" aluminum Macbook count? I do like a lot of things Apple does, but I detest other things. Am I not entitled to my opinion?
     
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    We all are.
     

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