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ActiveWin.com references a WMTALK listserv email from a Microsoft employee indicated that support for WMA 9 Voice as well as all 9 Series codecs is coming to Mac OS X in the fall.

"We are definitely planning to support WMA 9 Voice in the upcoming release of Windows Media Player 9 Series for Mac OS X. We showed the new player running with Apple's Safari browser at their WWDC a few weeks back. We're shooting for fall release to web right now and we'll keep the list posted. Thanks for your patience"
 

reedm007

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mplayer does a better job than VLC, in my opinion. Just another option.

While I'm not a big fan of WMP myself, this is good news in the sense that having more access to online media is always a good thing.
 
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bobindashadows

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psh where's sTreaMinG!!?!

[ Admin Edit: let's leave that other thread to die. no need to revive it here :) ]

As for WMP 9... isn't that the one for Win that once you agreed to it, ms reserved the right to install DRM patches without your knowing?

[edit] Incomprehensible sentence grammatically corrected [/edit]
 
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solvs

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I'm glad the thread was restarted.

It was kinda funny though.

All I know is that when I installed WMP 9 on one of my Windows machines, it screwed up the system something awful. Required full OS reinstall. I couldn't unistall it. I know that this isn't typical, but that was my experiance. I have the codecs installed on my Win2000, but not the player.

Is it just me, or does this version look suspiciously like QT? Look real close, you may see some similarities.
 
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mislabeledstar

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I'm glad to see continued support on our platform from M$. I know alot of people have a hatred for them, but this release is a strong thing for us to be able to receive certain items that aren't recognized by QT yet. I'll be alot happier if/when Apple adds those codecs to QT rather than having to go to WMS.

Does M$ have the ability to not release the codecs if they want? And does anyone know if that is why they haven't appeared in QT yet?
 
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arn

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Originally posted by aristademis
Maybe I'll be able to play avi files? Finally.

certain AVI files will likely never play. There are some old codecs around that haven't (and will likely never) been ported to OS X.

All new content shouldn't use these old codecs... and probably will play under the newest WMP.

arn
 
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rockman2023

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Old Codecs

Originally posted by arn
certain AVI files will likely never play. There are some old codecs around that haven't (and will likely never) been ported to OS X.
All new content shouldn't use these old codecs... and probably will play under the newest WMP.

arn

With all the support that OSX has nowadays, it's a shame to see that the Indeo Video codec isnt ported to X. You cant even play Indeo Video encoded avi's in VLC, and we know that VLC plays almost anything (except .rm files). If i need to encode an Indeo avi, I have to boot into Classic :rolleyes:
 
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C14ru5

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Please correct me if I'm wrong:

I've heard from some Linux friends of mine that there are no Linux movie players that can play Sorenson 3 encoded files (because Sorenson 3 isn't an open standard). If so, then Apple also has some skeletons in the closet just like Microsoft has with WMV 9. :(

Any thoughts on this?
 
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Sheebahawk

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GREAT!!!

its embarrassing having to switch over to a PC to watch clips of dave chapells show on the comedy central website, (anyone ever see his switch ad spoof? Now I can look at more porn than ever!)

not having access to most streaming media is the only disadvantage I can think of using my mac on the internet, just hope I won't be getting assaulted with streaming adds... can safari block those too? can't wait to upgrade from 10.1.5 to panther.....
 
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tny

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Originally posted by C14ru5
Please correct me if I'm wrong:

I've heard from some Linux friends of mine that there are no Linux movie players that can play Sorenson 3 encoded files (because Sorenson 3 isn't an open standard). If so, then Apple also has some skeletons in the closet just like Microsoft has with WMV 9. :(

Any thoughts on this?

My understanding is that Apple doesn't own the rights to Sorenson's codecs, Sorenson does. One doesn't have to create QuickTimes in Sorenson (in fact I stopped doing so for precisely that reason, that Linux apps can't use Sorenson because it requires a license). Not sure what the IP status of the MP4 format is, haven't looked into it enough to know if there's a specific codec involved or if it's a multi-codec format. Somebody else?
 
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MisterMe

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Originally posted by tny
My understanding is that Apple doesn't own the rights to Sorenson's codecs, Sorenson does. One doesn't have to create QuickTimes in Sorenson (in fact I stopped doing so for precisely that reason, that Linux apps can't use Sorenson because it requires a license). Not sure what the IP status of the MP4 format is, haven't looked into it enough to know if there's a specific codec involved or if it's a multi-codec format. Somebody else?
You are correct. Sorenson owns Sorenson. Apple is in no way responsible for Sorenson's business practices.
 
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hvfsl

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I hope then include some speed imporvements in this version since v7 on X was slower at playing MPEG4 than VLC.

Also people are saying iTunes is better than WMP9. Well the audio capibities are only slightly better than WMP9, but WMP9 can play just about any media file you try with it (except some quicktime and real files of course). Apple needs to do an all-in-one media player instead of the multiple apps they have at the moment. iMedia might be a good name.
 
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usersince86

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Good for this reason, too...

Since I live in Venezuela (but am a U.S. citizen), I use the internet to listen to radio stations and certain web broadcasts. Several stations support only WMP, not Real. So I'm glad that MS is continuing WMP development for the Mac.

At the same time, I like the idea of the Quicktime Player supporting WMP (and Real Player, if possible) standards. Would that be possible???
 
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reedm007

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Re: Good for this reason, too...

Originally posted by usersince86
At the same time, I like the idea of the Quicktime Player supporting WMP (and Real Player, if possible) standards. Would that be possible???

Nope. There are specific agreements that all three software companies have signed that forbid any of them from doing that.

Otherwise, QT Player could be in trouble: QuickTime is available in Cocoa and Carbon for any app on the platform, so MS or Real could easily incorporate QT playback into their app. The agreements, however, restrict them from doing just that.
 
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hvfsl

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Re: Re: Good for this reason, too...

Originally posted by reedm007
Nope. There are specific agreements that all three software companies have signed that forbid any of them from doing that.

Otherwise, QT Player could be in trouble: QuickTime is available in Cocoa and Carbon for any app on the platform, so MS or Real could easily incorporate QT playback into their app. The agreements, however, restrict them from doing just that.

Well Real Player One on the PC does that.
 
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Nermal

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Re: Re: Re: Good for this reason, too...

Originally posted by hvfsl
Well Real Player One on the PC does that.

Yeah, RealOne on the PC will play almost anything you throw at it, including ASF, WMV, and I think MP4.
 
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solvs

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Re: Re: Re: Good for this reason, too...

Originally posted by Nermal
Time to change my sig :)

Looks like you got your wish. ;)

Originally posted by hvfsl
Well Real Player One on the PC does that.

Yeah, it's too bad it sucks so much.

That's why I'm still using an old version on my Win2000 PC. And I only use it for .rm files. If I need to play WMP files, I use an older version with the new codecs. It may be older tech, but it's faster that way, and works better for me than the newer stuff.

Would be nice to have 1 program that plays them all well.
 
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