iPhone With Apple Card coming to 12.4, will iOS 13 beta users get it too? In which beta? Or are we screwed?

Goldfrapp

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Will it be enabled in iOS 13 beta 4 or something?

If 12.4 drops this Friday, does it mean iOS 13 beta testers will have to wait until next week when beta 4 is out?
 

Shirasaki

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Apple Card will eventually be released. Hopefully before iOS 13 but nobody knows that yet. I’d say just wait and don’t need to get too excited about it. It is just a titanium card after all.
 

AustinIllini

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The beta is not a customer release, so you may not get the Apple Card at the same time as everyone else. Which makes sense, because release independent stuff is probably following its own timeline.
 
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Betas for the new releases usually get point release parity with the next beta build.

I think back when they announced iOS8.4 with Apple Music, the iOS9 beta missed out on it till a future beta (because the 8.4 beta launched a few weeks after WWDC if I recall correctly).

TL/DR: you usually get it with the next beta release that follows a launch, if it‘s not already in the current builds
 
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I think back when they announced iOS8.4 with Apple Music, the iOS9 beta missed out on it till a future beta (because the 8.4 beta launched a few weeks after WWDC if I recall correctly).
Not quite. iOS 8.4 entered beta a few months before WWDC with a redesigned Music app that was a pretty clear signal that Apple would be doing something with it later on, but Apple Music itself didn’t launch until June 30, after WWDC, with the public release of iOS 8.4.

As for iOS 9 beta, iOS 8.4 was released roughly at the midpoint between iOS 9 betas; Apple didn’t release a special beta update to launch Apple Music on iOS 9. Apple Music was present in the next beta, which came a week later.

In any case, considering the relatively minor changes involved, I’d say code supporting Apple Card is already present in the iOS 13 betas, but I’ll have to download an IPSW to check.
 

gwhizkids

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Not quite. iOS 8.4 entered beta a few months before WWDC with a redesigned Music app that was a pretty clear signal that Apple would be doing something with it later on, but Apple Music itself didn’t launch until June 30, after WWDC, with the public release of iOS 8.4.

As for iOS 9 beta, iOS 8.4 was released roughly at the midpoint between iOS 9 betas; Apple didn’t release a special beta update to launch Apple Music on iOS 9. Apple Music was present in the next beta, which came a week later.

In any case, considering the relatively minor changes involved, I’d say code supporting Apple Card is already present in the iOS 13 betas, but I’ll have to download an IPSW to check.
I agree with this. I'm reasonably sure its already in the code-base. No reason for it not to be.
 

gwhizkids

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Not being snarky, genuinely curious. Why is the Apple Card exciting? I thought it was just a credit card.
That’s a good question, actually.

Probably because of its online tracking tools. Plus some other innovative features, like there being no account number on the card. Apple definitely is trying to find a way to reduce credit card fraud with this, which is a good thing. Look for other companies / banks to adopt as well.

But also because it’s from Apple. That always gets lots of otherwise reasonable people a bit too excited.
 

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That’s a good question, actually.

Probably because of its online tracking tools. Plus some other innovative features, like there being no account number on the card. Apple definitely is trying to find a way to reduce credit card fraud with this, which is a good thing. Look for other companies / banks to adopt as well.

But also because it’s from Apple. That always gets lots of otherwise reasonable people a bit too excited.
Thanks :)
 
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gwhizkids

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I had the same question. I think I will wait a while before adopting the Apple Card. I try to minimize the number of credit accounts I have since I have had some minor fraud problems before.
I would never get a new card for these features. If anything, I’d pay off one I have and replace it but never in addition to.
 

jonblatho

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So the card would contain some sort of Bluetooth beacon?
That’s an option, or perhaps just a more manual method as a backup. I don’t know the specifics and nuances of Apple Card setup and I’m not sure anyone does (or is authorized to discuss it) until it ships.
 

bigjnyc

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That’s a good question, actually.

Probably because of its online tracking tools. Plus some other innovative features, like there being no account number on the card. Apple definitely is trying to find a way to reduce credit card fraud with this, which is a good thing. Look for other companies / banks to adopt as well.

But also because it’s from Apple. That always gets lots of otherwise reasonable people a bit too excited.
I feel the opposite about the card, I think I would feel like a huge dork if I was at a restaurant or somewhere that needs the physical card and I pulled out an Apple credit card to pay with. Plus I already get double points on everything I buy with my capital one venture card, and a 50k credit line so there really is no need to open up any more accounts.
 

Goldfrapp

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Is it safe to assume that Apple Card won’t launch until next Monday?