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pahanorlando

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where can I get more codecs then?
I have a lot wmv files that I can't play, even after installing the vvp or something like that update, even with dvx, even with vlc, even with nice player, where can I get more codecs?
 

pahanorlando

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pianoman said:
Flip4Mac should work. Also try the DivX codec.
yep, I tried both of them, that sucks, is that mean that I can't play them on mac, thats really bad , shame on mac

also shame on putting the usb to the left side of computer, it would be better one usb to the right side for mouse
 

kainjow

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Did you try Microsoft's now discontinued Windows Media Player for Mac OS X? Did you try VLC? Did you try using ffmpeg (ffmpegx) to convert it to another format?
 

Chundles

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pahanorlando said:
yep, I tried both of them, that sucks, is that mean that I can't play them on mac, thats really bad , shame on mac

also shame on putting the usb to the left side of computer, it would be better one usb to the right side for mouse
You mean "Shame on Apple" - Mac isn't a company, it's a computer. And you're putting blame in the wrong place - wmv is Microsoft's baby, if they don't allow us to play them on our Macs it's their fault, not Apples.

As for USB on the same side as all the other ports, that's to keep the size in check. The larger MacBook Pro has ports on both sides but in order to keep the MacBook as small as possible they keep everything together. Never had a problem getting a mouse on the right hand side - that's why they have cords longer than 6"
 

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Chundles said:
As for USB on the same side as all the other ports, that's to keep the size in check. The larger MacBook Pro has ports on both sides but in order to keep the MacBook as small as possible they keep everything together. Never had a problem getting a mouse on the right hand side - that's why they have cords longer than 6"
Bluetooth also solves the problem wonderfully :)
 

andcraig

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wmv3 will not play in OSX.
it's most bothersome as some of my favorite anime i can only find in that format.
I believe wmv3 is the implementation of the VC1 codec that is proprietary to microsoft which windows media formats ten use (the newest ones). Microsoft has not made these available to OSX nor the free version of flip4mac. Maybe the pay version has something special.
I could be wrong though, but i can never play them.
 

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andcraig said:
wmv3 will not play in OSX.
it's most bothersome as some of my favorite anime i can only find in that format.
I believe wmv3 is the implementation of the VC1 codec that is proprietary to microsoft which windows media formats ten use (the newest ones). Microsoft has not made these available to OSX nor the free version of flip4mac. Maybe the pay version has something special.
I could be wrong though, but i can never play them.
And you tried VLC? WMV 3 is listed in their supported formats:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html
 

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pahanorlando said:
shame on mac
Actually, its shame on Microsoft. Its their creation - not Apples.

And before you say ''Well it plays on Windows'' bla bla - yes, thats because its their format.

Macs can play a wide range of formats, right out the box, often more than Windows. Heck, that doesn't even play DVDs out the box!

PS: Mac is the operating system, Apple is the company. Windows/Mac -> Microsoft/Apple.

Edit: to solve your problem - try converting the file.
 

pahanorlando

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josh.thomas said:
Actually, its shame on Microsoft. Its their creation - not Apples.

And before you say ''Well it plays on Windows'' bla bla - yes, thats because its their format.

Macs can play a wide range of formats, right out the box, often more than Windows. Heck, that doesn't even play DVDs out the box!

PS: Mac is the operating system, Apple is the company. Windows/Mac -> Microsoft/Apple.

Edit: to solve your problem - try converting the file.
I understand that, but did you noticed that windows can play mac videos, but mac doesn't seem to be able to play windows vidoes
 

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pahanorlando said:
I understand that, but did you noticed that windows can play mac videos, but mac doesn't seem to be able to play windows vidoes
Partly because Apple actually continues to develop and support QuickTime for Windows, and also partly because what you consider Mac videos actually adhere to intentionally cross-platform standards under the MPEG-4 banner (AAC, H.264, etc.. are all part of the MPEG-4 standard).

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pahanorlando said:
I understand that, but did you noticed that windows can play mac videos, but mac doesn't seem to be able to play windows vidoes
I don't think there exists anything as "Mac videos". QuickTime movies (.mov) run just fine on Windows because Apple has a QuickTime client for Windows. Unfortunately it's not the same way with Windows Media Audio/Video because Microsoft doesn't provide a Mac OS X client (well it did, but it sucked and wasn't very compatible, and now they've completely dropped it).
 

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pahanorlando said:
I understand that, but did you noticed that windows can play mac videos, but mac doesn't seem to be able to play windows vidoes
There's no such thing as a "Mac" video. Apple uses standard video formats ie. formats that come from the MPEG group (MPEG-4 etc.) that are playable on any platform. Apple continue to support these standards rather than locking their media content to the operating system.

It is Microsoft who continue to use proprietary formats for their media content. Shame on Microsoft.
 

pahanorlando

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Chundles said:
There's no such thing as a "Mac" video. Apple uses standard video formats ie. formats that come from the MPEG group (MPEG-4 etc.) that are playable on any platform. Apple continue to support these standards rather than locking their media content to the operating system.

It is Microsoft who continue to use proprietary formats for their media content. Shame on Microsoft.
it doesn't make me feel any better because
1. I can't watch about half of my movies on this apple
2. If I watch something, I can watch it only in quiet room by myself because its quiet as ****
 

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pahanorlando said:
it doesn't make me feel any better because
1. I can't watch about half of my movies on this apple
2. If I watch something, I can watch it only in quiet room by myself because its quiet as ****
Well, use a PC then :p
 

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pahanorlando said:
it doesn't make me feel any better because
1. I can't watch about half of my movies on this apple
2. If I watch something, I can watch it only in quiet room by myself because its quiet as ****
1. So complain to Microsoft for not releasing the codecs. It's not Apple's fault that MS won't let you watch videos. In future, get videos that conform to proper international cross-platform standards, show MS that you're not going to put up with their dodgy proprietary formats anymore.

2. Plug in some external speakers.
 

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pahanorlando said:
it doesn't make me feel any better because
1. I can't watch about half of my movies on this apple
2. If I watch something, I can watch it only in quiet room by myself because its quiet as ****
1. Its not being said to make you feel better. Its to prove you wrong. :)

Apple uses industry standard video and audio encoding. It plays on Windows and Mac. People who use the Music Store even on Windows, which by the way - the Music Store is made by Apple (who obviously make Macs and own the OS) can still buy and play its content. They don't ''lock'' you into using their software.

Apple continues to update its QuickTime product for Windows - eventhough in a way, its too a competing market. They could do like Microsoft does, and only develop software for its own operating system - Mac.

In the past few years, Microsoft has stopped dev. of: IE, Virtual PC and Media Player. They also make sure MSN for Mac lacks features available in Windows 5 years ago.

Its up to Microsoft to make the codecs to the file you wish to play, available to other computer systems. They are basically trying to force you to stay with Windows.

2. You can't watch half of your movies on this Mac. Which by the way, isn't Apple or the Macs fault - its Microsoft. Well done on switching.

3. The Mac Mini and MacBook are budget computers to an extent, they are fitting everything into a small package - the sound produced by these items isn't very loud.

I'm not sure what hardware your using, but the iMac and MacBook Pro produce very good quality sound.

You can also 'boost' the power of QuickTime movies and iTunes songs, by going to the 'Info' pane and maximising the volume.
 

pahanorlando

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josh.thomas said:
1. Its not being said to make you feel better. Its to prove you wrong. :)

Apple uses industry standard video and audio encoding. It plays on Windows and Mac. People who use the Music Store even on Windows, which by the way - the Music Store is made by Apple (who obviously make Macs and own the OS) can still buy and play its content. They don't ''lock'' you into using their software.

Apple continues to update its QuickTime product for Windows - eventhough in a way, its too a competing market. They could do like Microsoft does, and only develop software for its own operating system - Mac.

In the past few years, Microsoft has stopped dev. of: IE, Virtual PC and Media Player. They also make sure MSN for Mac lacks features available in Windows 5 years ago.

Its up to Microsoft to make the codecs to the file you wish to play, available to other computer systems. They are basically trying to force you to stay with Windows.

2. You can't watch half of your movies on this Mac. Which by the way, isn't Apple or the Macs fault - its Microsoft. Well done on switching.

3. The Mac Mini and MacBook are budget computers to an extent, they are fitting everything into a small package - the sound produced by these items isn't very loud.

I'm not sure what hardware your using, but the iMac and MacBook Pro produce very good quality sound.

You can also 'boost' the power of QuickTime movies and iTunes songs, by going to the 'Info' pane and maximising the volume.
where is the info pan?
 

Kardashian

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pahanorlando said:
where is the info pan?
Press the Apple Key and 'A' in iTunes. It will select all your music.

Press the Apple Key again, and this time press 'I' - it will bring up an information pane.

Move the volume adjustment all the way over to the right.

Thats iTunes done..

..and don't mention it, not that it looks like your going to :rolleyes:
 

Brize

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Chundles said:
So complain to Microsoft for not releasing the codecs.
Or, more to the point, complain to the content providers for using proprietary technologies rather than open media standards.
 

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Brize said:
Or, more to the point, complain to the content providers for using proprietary technologies rather than open media standards.
Yup. Brize has identified the real problem.
 

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pahanorlando said:
I understand that, but did you noticed that windows can play mac videos, but mac doesn't seem to be able to play windows vidoes
Because Apple is good and supports their software (QuickTime) on both OSes, and Microsoft are jerks and only supports it on theirs.