Women Rights and the Courts

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Plutonius, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. Plutonius macrumors 603

    Plutonius

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    In a case in NY, a woman judge ordered that a defendant in a neglect case no longer get pregnant again.

    What do you think of the judge's order and how would it ever be enforced ?
     
  2. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    In theory, I kind of like it. However, without forced sterilization or implantation of a birth control device, it can't be enforced. I would think that she would offer to have her tubes tied if the court paid for it at this point.
     
  3. Plutonius thread starter macrumors 603

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    I agree she shouldn't have any more kids.

    Is forced sterilization or implantation of a birth control device legal ?
     
  4. Moyank24 macrumors 601

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    I imagine the legality would be dependent upon the laws in each state?

    It's certainly just as slippery a slope as it is in rape/abuse adjudications where the man is castrated.
     
  5. Plutonius thread starter macrumors 603

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    I have not been in favor of that. Either he is rehabilitated after his time is up or he should be kept in jail. Do we cut off the fingers of convicted pickpockets ?
     
  6. haxrnick macrumors 6502a

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    Yes. Lesson learned and no jail time. Win/win.
     
  7. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    I don't know...
     
  8. Rhonindk macrumors 68020

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    Great intentions by the judge but not enforceable. It would lay groundwork for stiff penalties when (not if) she violates the order.

    I think - have to research - forced sterilization was outlawed in the '70s.
     
  9. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a

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    It's not, but there are cases where it probably should be. I'm all for....

    You want a welfare check? Pee in a cup and take your Depo shot.
     
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    No it doesn't.

    The woman has a right to procreate.
    I blame the idiots who spawn with her.
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    She shouldn't get wellfare in the firsr place.
     
  12. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    I think for it to be legal it would have to be an option. For example sentence her to jail for X number of years with her sentence to begin in 3 months. Or he would suspend the sentence if she show proof of being sterilized.
     
  13. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Having a child with drug withdrawal should be enough to land her in prison for administering illegal narcotics to a child.

    There is no right to procreate either. If you commit a heinous crime you go to prison and don't receive this right.
     
  14. Meister Suspended

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    You have a point but the judge can not order her not to have children after she sobers up.
     
  15. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a

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    Fair position. Given the courts have sided with murder of the unborn I see no reason such rulings shouldn't extend to drug abusers that destroy the unborn.
     

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