wondering how long macbook pros stay fast and how to keep them fast

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by ithinkingmac, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. ithinkingmac macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2010
    hi, i am thinking about buying the current 13inch macbook pro. i am switching from window because my computer right now has crashed many times and it is a pain in the butt to redo everything. what is the life expectiancy of the base model macbook pro and how do i keep it fast? and is this a good buy for keeping it in the future?
  2. gilkisson macrumors 65816


    Congrats. Welcome to the real world...

    First, you will have to train yourself to forget Windows-think. There isn't a lot you need to do to keep your Mac running well. You don't need to defrag the drive, ever. You don't need to install anticrapware programs, as there are zero true viruses in the wild which affect modern OSX installs. True, there do exist some Trojans, and some malware/spyware, but the only way to get those is to install them, and give the admin password. Bottom line, don't install warez or cracks.

    Beyong that, don't drop your Mac, don't take it swimming, and don't attempt to eat it. Other than that, you will love it for years to come. You will probably stop using your new Mac when you upgrade to the newest shiny Mac that comes along... And then, you will enjoy nice resale value, far better than most pc resales.
  3. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604


    May 28, 2005
    OS Rot is the term you're looking for. It happens to every OS to some extent, Windows more than OS X, but it will happen.
  4. ithinkingmac thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2010
    what about cookies and history and stuff like that?:confused:
  5. robotmonkey macrumors 6502

    Apr 24, 2010
    Windows WWWAAAYYYY more than os x
  6. ithinkingmac thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2010
    will this model be fast enough for video editing and assorted stuff like that
  7. aethelbert macrumors 601

    Jun 1, 2007
    Chicago, IL, USA
    Seven has been much better than previous versions. After using it since the first month of the RC, I've never had to do anything major in terms of maintenance.
  8. gilkisson macrumors 65816


    You can nuke all that if you choose to do so. It also depends on which browser you prefer... I like safari, but lots of folks use firefox, chrome, etc.

    Either way, it's not that big a deal.
  9. gilkisson macrumors 65816


    Truth. If I had to choose between eating a slug and using Win7, the slug lives. If it's between the slug and Vista, however... Nom nom slug.
  10. mikeo007 macrumors 65816

    Mar 18, 2010
    Judging by your usage of the term "crash" I'm guessing that thejadedmonkey has your problem pegged. If you install crap, your system will slow down.

    If you buy a brand new mac, install office software on it and only use it to type or browse the internet, it will stay the same speed until the day it dies. The same is true for a Windows machine. But as soon as you start downloading and installing junk, your system will begin to get clogged.
  11. ithinkingmac thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2010
    i have to agree with you, i have used vista since 2007 and using it was tortue if you had a relatively slow pc, but win 7 is not bad but mac osx is way better (and faster).

    question, why dont people consider macs a pc, it is a personal computer running os x
  12. ithinkingmac thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2010
    i dont install crap, it is just too much random fails like blue screen of death i cant stand, but win 7 has improved it a lot
  13. mikeo007 macrumors 65816

    Mar 18, 2010
    What were you using, windows 98? I've seen maybe a dozen blue screens with xp in the last few years, all caused by faulty drivers or failed hardware. None with windows 7 yet, although I've only used it on a few machines, this macbook being one of them.

    When I mention crap, I mean literally almost any program from the internet. Everything wants to sit in your system tray these days. Every application tries to install extra update services and run-on-startup crap. Mac or Windows, it happens all the time.
  14. DesmoPilot macrumors 65816

    Feb 18, 2008
    Vista after SP1 was fine; not to mention W7 is basically just Vista SP3.
  15. ithinkingmac thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2010
    so far i had very minor problems with win7 but the stuff i want to do it cant do with a windows computer, i need a mac and a faster computer since my windows laptop is a few years old (3 years old)
  16. elpmas macrumors 68000


    Sep 9, 2009
    Where the fresh snow don't go.
    i think you'll be fine. there's plenty of apps out there that will help you clean your system (i.e. cleanmymac).
  17. mikeo007 macrumors 65816

    Mar 18, 2010
    There's lots of good reasons for wanting a Mac, but saying it can do something a windows computer can't is silly.

    Now if your saying a new computer can do stuff your old computer can't, I'd believe that, but it would be true whether you were running OSX or Win7
  18. Reapur macrumors regular

    May 5, 2010
    With video editing ram and hard drive speeds are the two big factors, they will be come bottle necked way sooner than your CPU. Upgrade your hard drive to something like 500gb 7200 rpm. SSD is an option but I would personally wait till prices come down. Ram can be upgraded to 8gb from an online store like OWC for like $250 instead of Apples $400: http://www.macsales.com/

    Do your self a favor and if you get external storage make sure you buy Firewire 800 drives to take advantage of the speed.
  19. AndrewCjDuong macrumors member

    Feb 7, 2010
    I use iDefrag once a while. I guess that's about it.
  20. ahamaven macrumors newbie

    Jan 6, 2010
    I am a Macbook Newbie


    Can someone tell me what is this? I am using Bumptop so it looks a bit different but I am not really sure what happens when I install programs in Mac...

    And I also don't know if this needs to be deleted...or anything like that.

    Your input is appreciated.
  21. Brien macrumors 68030


    Aug 11, 2008
    To the OP, my advice is buy the best model you can. I bought the 'top of the line' MacBook Pro in October 2008, and it's still pretty fast and spec-wise is comparable to the mid-level 15", which for 1.5 years isn't too shabby.
  22. davidlv macrumors 65816

    Apr 5, 2009
    Kyoto, Japan
    Welcome to the Mac community. the life expectancy of a Mac is a hard question to answer, every model/individual machine is different, but I know many people still using iBook G4s made in 2002-2003 and even some G4 towers made before that. I am sure many people have older Macs too, still working just fine. Your 13" Macbook Pro should last until it is outdated and you will probably suffer some for letting it go out to pasture.
    As for maintenance, you can get away with doing almost nothing, many Mac owners just use the machine and do nothing extra at all. Still it is better to have a good backup plan in effect, data can be very valuable. And doing a little preventive maintenance is also advisable. I suggest getting Disk Warrior, install it on your HD and your backup (bootable) HD (USB or Firewire) and run it on both disks occasionally. You have to run it on the disk other than the bootup disk, so it is necessary to have that bootable external HD. Running Repair Permissions is good occasionally, especially after running installer programs like Adobe's Flash, that leave permissions wrong after they install something. Defragmentation is no longer the major problem it used to be, you can ignore that aspect. There are built-in maintenance scripts in OS X, and these can also be run by applications like the popular Onyx (freeware) along with other things like cache deleters etc.
    All in all, OS X lets you concentrate on your work or entertainment more and you do not have to fuss with the computer just to keep it working. Enjoy your life more with your new Mac. :cool::apple::cool:
  23. Fishrrman macrumors Pentium


    Feb 20, 2009
    davidlv gave a pretty good dissertation on how to keep a Mac running up to snuff.

    However, I disagree with his (and Apple's) assessment that you don't need to defrag the hard drive, at least once in a while. iDefrag does this very well.

    The basic provisos seem to be:
    - Keep a modest amount of "free space" on the drive (at least 10%, 15-20% might be better)
    - Run the "cron" scripts routinely (MacJanitor, Oynx)
    - Clean out logs and caches routinely (Oynx, Snow Leopard Cache Cleaner)
    - Repair permissions weekly
    - Use Disk Utility's "repair disk" feature routinely
    - defragment and optimize the drive once in a while

    This works for me. I'm typing this on a PowerMac g4 (made in 2004), still running the _original_ installation of the software (NEVER had to do a "reinstall"). It does just fine for day-to-day things....
  24. sadcamper macrumors regular

    May 19, 2010
    Weekly? Really? :confused:
  25. iverson76 macrumors newbie

    Jun 10, 2010
    Just got a 13 MBP after decades on Windows. I think overall you're going to find that its incredibly efficient right out of the box. 11 processes on startup compared to 50? That's insane to me. But i've heard the same things that you're reading

    -hardly any viruses (if any) for OSX.
    -naturally less bugs and crashes (since of course Apple makes both the hardware and software).
    -as far as speed, a big selling point for me was the fact that in the future I can upgrade the MBP to 8gb of RAM. That's overkill right now but maybe not in 2013.

    I really don't think you can go wrong. Windows 7 is a great improvement but OSX is so smart and efficient it almost feels like you're cheating.

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