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cinzia8

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Hi all:

I recently upgraded to Mojave but I'm a novelist that uses Word for Mac and my version is 2011 14.7.2. I no longer get updates and I installed Office for Mac Installer. After I did this I read that Office 2011 regardless of the installer will not get upgrades etc.

I have several published manuscripts on Word. Should I just buy a new Office program and if so, does anyone know which one? 2019? I read the bit thing is changing to 64. Honestly, I'm not a high-tech person so I don't really understand this part. Would I be locked out of my docs eventually if I don't upgrade? Would it be less of a headache just to buy a new Office?

Any insight would be much appreciated.

Cinzia
 
Office 2011 will cease to function in the next version of macOS (10.15.X). The Mac App Store now has the newer version of Office. You can purchase Office 365 from there. I believe there is a 30 day trial.

You won't be locked out of your docs if you don't upgrade as both Pages and Textedit can open Word docs, however, neither one really works very well as far as keeping the original formatting. Best to buy the new version from the Mac App Store.
 
I have stand-alone versions of Office 2016 and Office 2019. I’m not sure the stand-alone version is available in the MAS. It may be, I haven’t checked. I don’t care for the 365 subscription service.

I purchased mine from Microsoft’s Online Download store. I would buy the 2019 stand-alone version if I were in your position.
 
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I also use MS Office 2011 for Mac (last update was v14.7.7) which is 32 bit and MS no longer supports updates for it but it does still work. It hopefully will work through the last release of 10.14.x. . If you want the latest version of MS Office with fully supported updates for the coming years with Word, Excel, Publisher and Outlook you can purchase MS Office 2019 Home & Business (or without Outlook, Home & Student) for Mac/Windows. You purchase one license and it will support one computer for either a MacOS or a Windows 10 computer. You can also annually subscribe to MS Office 365. It's whatever you prefer.
 
I also use MS Office 2011 for Mac (last update was v14.7.7) which is 32 bit and MS no longer supports updates for it but it does still work. It hopefully will work through the last release of 10.14.x. . If you want the latest version of MS Office with fully supported updates for the coming years with Word, Excel, Publisher and Outlook you can purchase MS Office 2019 Home & Business (or without Outlook, Home & Student) for Mac/Windows. You purchase one license and it will support one computer for either a MacOS or a Windows 10 computer. You can also annually subscribe to MS Office 365. It's whatever you prefer.

I also have the 2011 version I just didn’t see a need to mention it.

I wonder why you are telling me all this as I own nearly every stand-alone version of Office for Mac / Win ever released. I know all this information already, and never asked.... o_O

Did you mean to quote someone else or something?
 
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Cinzia, actually the App store is probably one the the worst places to acquire MS Office 2019, much to expensive. And, looks like the App store only sells the subscription model, which over time, will cost you. I bought my copy from here

https://fastsoftware.com

Thought when I bought it, it was $10. cheaper.

Lou
 
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I also have the 2011 version I just didn’t see a need to mention it

I wonder why you are telling all this as I own nearly every stand-alone version of Office for Mac / Win ever released. I know all this information alread, and never asked.... o_O

Did you mean to quote someone else or something?
Yes, I know. I hit the reply button for your post because I was going to add some additional information to what you said. My reply was meant for the thread starter which is why I removed your quote.
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Cinzia, actually the App store is probably one the the worst places to acquire MS Office 2019, much to expensive. And, looks like the App store only sells the subscription model, which over time, will cost you. I bought my copy from here

https://fastsoftware.com

Thought when I bought it, it was $10. cheaper.

Lou
...To add to what you are saying...Amazon and B&H (link) will often have it discounted as well but apparently they don't show the price due to agreements with MS. If you are going through Amazon I would recommend getting it directly from Amazon and not a third party seller or as a fulfilled by Amazon seller.
 
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My understanding is that the stand alone one time purchase of Office 2016 or 2019 versions do not allow customizing of the Ribbon or menus, and that any special updates will be only for the O365 version. Is that true?

And yes, the Mac App Store only sells the subscription version.
 
I haven’t tried to modify the ribbons or menus, but I received several updates since purchasing. Unless “Special Updates” is something different, I don’t know what you’re referring to.
 
I don't know what those updates are either but only going by what MS says in their ads about O365 and the stand alone versions. I would like to know though if the Ribbon or menus can be customized the same way as in Office 2011. I'm going to need compatibility for the many Word files that I have. Some of them have special formatting which can not be duplicated by Pages without re-writing the document.

I haven't decided whether the stand alone version would be best or just buy Word from the Mac App Store. I realize that means subscribing.
 
Hi all:

I recently upgraded to Mojave but I'm a novelist that uses Word for Mac and my version is 2011 14.7.2. I no longer get updates and I installed Office for Mac Installer. After I did this I read that Office 2011 regardless of the installer will not get upgrades etc.

I have several published manuscripts on Word. Should I just buy a new Office program and if so, does anyone know which one? 2019? I read the bit thing is changing to 64. Honestly, I'm not a high-tech person so I don't really understand this part. Would I be locked out of my docs eventually if I don't upgrade? Would it be less of a headache just to buy a new Office?

Any insight would be much appreciated.

Cinzia
Try FreeOffice at FreeOffice.com
 
The best way to get a cheap office 365 is Amazon. Buy it there, follow the Microsoft link in your mail and activate it there with your account. Then download it from the app store and log in with your Microsoft account.

Don't know how it is outside Germany but Amazon in Germany does offer for the next 10 hours office 365 home for 54,99€.
 
If you are going through Amazon I would recommend getting it directly from Amazon and not a third party seller or as a fulfilled by Amazon seller.

Actually I disagree with this. If you buy from a third party seller, Amazon will help if there is an issue. But, the main reason I choose a third party seller, is that they do not charge sales tax. Don't know how much longer that will be the case, but as it now stands it is.

Lou
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My understanding is that the stand alone one time purchase of Office 2016 or 2019 versions do not allow customizing of the Ribbon or menus, and that any special updates will be only for the O365 version. Is that true?

Definitely NOT true. MS issues monthly maintenance updates to both Office 2016 (thru October 13, 2020) and Office 2019. As of now Office 2016 is at V16.6.7 and Office 2019 is at V16.22.

Lou
 
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My understanding is that the stand alone one time purchase of Office 2016 or 2019 versions do not allow customizing of the Ribbon or menus, and that any special updates will be only for the O365 version. Is that true?

And yes, the Mac App Store only sells the subscription version.
This just means that any feature additions will be Office 365 only. Security updates and bug fixes will apply to the standalone version.
 
i wonder whether the OP isn't also asking about file incompatibility -- whether a new version of Word will be able to read the old documents. If that's part of your question, OP, then the answer is absolutely yes.
 
Thanks, everyone for your insights. I can go and look but Office 2019 Home and Student will give me Powerpoint as well as Word and Excel, right? (2011 does) I seldom use spreadsheets and I use Gmail, so, I don't really need Home and business, I think, but I do use PowerPoint.

Thanks again for all the good advice and information.
Cinzia
 
This just means that any feature additions will be Office 365 only. Security updates and bug fixes will apply to the standalone version.

Again NOT True! As long as Office 2019 is the current issue of MS Office, it will receive the same Product Updates as Office 365. BUT, when Office 2019 is superseded by the next version, Office 365 folks will be updated, Office 2019 owners will not. That update is a few years off, and by then the savings pocketed by the Office 2019 owners will allow them to purchase the next version and still have money in their pockets.

Lou
 
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Again NOT True! As long as Office 2019 is the current issue of MS Office, it will receive the same Product Updates as Office 365. BUT, when Office 2019 is superseded by the next version, Office 365 folks will be updated, Office 2019 owners will not. That update is a few years off, and by then the savings pocketed by the Office 2019 owners will allow them to purchase the next version and still have money in their pockets.

Lou
You're wrong on this. Office 2019's features are set and 365 will get new features as Microsoft sees fit. This is what they do to drive subscriptions.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...or-windows-and-mac-frequently-asked-questions
Microsoft said:
Office 2019 (for both Windows and Mac) is a one-time purchase and does not receive feature updates after you purchase it. Office 2019 includes a meaningful subset of features that are found in Office 365, but it's not part of Office 365. Office 2019 will receive quality and security updates as required.
 
^^^^Maybe that's what they say, but that's not what they do in practice. I have Office 2016, and received every update that Office 365 did while it was still the latest release. The same is true of Office 2019. View this page:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-office-for-mac

And if you really analyze what they are saying, it means Office 2019 owners will not get the next iteration of Office when it is issued, and Office 365 users will. Exactly what I said. The only time "a meaningful subset of features" is added is upon release of a new version of any software.

Lou
 
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^^^^Maybe that's what they say, but that's not what they do in practice. I have Office 2016, and received every update that Office 365 did while it was still the latest release. The same is true of Office 2019.
What Microsoft is doing is confusing. 2019 and 365 show the same version numbers, and get what appears to be the same updates, but the license type determines if new features are enabled. The apps themselves are identical for 2019 and 365.
From the release notes page here https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/release-notes-office-for-mac , Microsoft says "some features listed in the release notes are only available if you have an Office 365 subscription."
Features like this got enabled for 365 users in version 16.22, but they're not available if you have the standalone version of 2019: https://support.office.com/en-us/ar...14d-b67f-b3ffef6ccf53?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US
There were similar distinctions between Office 2016 and 365.
 
The question was asked and answered.

If you like the subscription model, knock yourself out...

Many of us don't like the subscription model regardless of the app. Just buy whatever makes you happy, it's your money.
 
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I went through my non-profit and Tech Soup... bought the stand-alone 2016 Office for Mac with a perpetual license that included upgrades to 2019... cost $16 a couple of years ago... and upgraded to 2019 a few months back.
 
^^^^You got quite a deal thumbsup.gif

Lou
 
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