World Class Journalist Spills the Beans, Admits Mainstream Media is Completely Fake

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  1. thewap macrumors demi-god

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  4. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    Yup, so are yours.:cool:
     
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    so will it stop you from posting news articles?
     
  6. thewap thread starter macrumors demi-god

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    Nope, I will always post articles to entertain you.
     
  7. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    so Trump didn't really win ANY of those primaries the MSM reported he won..........those reports were all just MSM fake reports!!!
     
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    Kind of short sighted understanding of how govt propaganda works.. but carry on !.
     
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    everyone has a bias (unfortunately) but whats really fake is the validity of all the threads you make
     
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    lol....well you did say "completely"......certainly you meant what you said :p
     
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    It's no secret that ALL COUNTRIES have use propaganda to influence wars. Someone was just complaining about Israels ability to censor articles. Whether than be censoring information directly, fabricating material, or strategicly controlling what journalists can and cannot see, in addition to standards of what the can and cannot write. The fact of the matter the media has a tremendous influence on wars and controlling information is important.

    The Gulf War coverage is notorious for having been censored by US Military. Reporters were confined and controlled where they could go and who they could talk to. The Vietnam War offered supposedly full freedom of press and ultimately is believed to have negatively influenced Americans' perception and outcome. They'd offer free transportation of reporters they deemed sympathetic to the war to the gulf. America claimed in the era of evolving instant communication it was necessary to control information so it was not compromised.

    Even news articles of non-military/government issued end up having alternate endings based on missing evidence because the journalist/network are trying to send an intended message. We all know I believe NBC deliberately altered the 911 call of George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin Case.

    NBC broadcast transcript:
    Dispatcher: "Ok and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?"

    Zimmerman: "He looks like he's up to no good, he's black"

    Actual transcript:
    Zimmerman: "Hey we've had some break in in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh it's Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."

    Dispatcher: "Ok, and is this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?"

    Zimmerman: "He looks black."

    And there's a whole story of NBC completet remixing and arranging this 911 phone, in addition to proving false captions to change the meaning.

    (I'm not looking for a George Zimmerman Guilty/Innocent debate, just pointing out the media manipulation)

    So this is all no shocking surprise.
     
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    Unknown German journalist tells Russian propaganda arm that the media is bought according to article from fly-by-night Canadian website.

    Interesting.

    Okay, who is Dr. Udo Ulfkotte? Ah, apparently, he's a 9/11 Truther, who once called Muslim immigrants "locusts," and once argued that President Obama had ordered bibles to be burned.

    What interesting about the OP is not the ramblings of some German guy, but that people have such a poor understanding of sourcing that someone thought this "article" might prove something.
     
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    Hey don't ruin it I am having too much fun with it. I never thought it was worth the effort to check it out thanks for the effort.
     
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    I remember watching interviews with this guy a few years ago. Incorrect to say mainstream media is completely false, because that is false. But CIA has tentacles throughout media and academia.
     
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    That's pretty shocking.
     
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    That not the whole story, now, is it. :rolleyes:
     
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    The original interview was on RT. That's the first clue that what this guys says should be ignored.
     
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    Why? Former CIA/NSA agents are quite frequently interviewed on RT.

    President Reagan’s Fmr. Sr. CIA Analyst Ray McGovern, for example:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ray+McGovern+RT
     
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    What is interesting to me is to look at alternative information sources to compare to the usual non investigative biased memes and opinions of the MSM media, then try form my own opinion rather than towing the cognitive dissonance line.

    Maybe you should list what you consider appropriate "sources" so that anyone you wish to have discussion with follows your narrow set of standards and biased point of view.
     
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    "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."
    - William Casey, Reagan's CIA Director and fellow communist sympathizer (based on all the support Reagan gave China with MFN status, allowing missile guidance systems to be sold there, other corruption because only communists are corrupt, etc...)
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    In other words, support fringe wackjob lunatic media because they're not professional outlets?

    Kinda like people damning career politicians, voting in inexperienced, and then blaming their coddling the career politicians as an act of being inexperienced.
     
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    Like I mentioned, people who are not open to or label alternative sources of info as "fring, wackjob, lunatic etc.." should really not partake in conversations outside their "safe space".
     
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    RT stands for Russia Today and is owned by the Russian Government. RT while may offer a different perspective, has a history of controversy.

    "RT has been called a propaganda outlet for the Russian government[10][11][12] and its foreign policy[10][13][12][14] by news reporters,[15]including former RT reporters.[16][17][18] It has also been accused of spreading disinformation.[19][20][21][22] The United Kingdom media regulator Ofcom has repeatedly found RT to have breached rules on impartiality and of broadcasting "materially misleading" content.[23][24][25] The network states that it offers a Russian perspective on global events.[3]"

    All news stations clearly have bias, but I'm not sure a news network, owned by the Russian government, that specifically targets everyone outside of Russia (available in English, Spanish, and Arabic) Obviously raises some concerns. Not saying it's a useless channel, but as it applies to all outlets I take it with a grain of salt and get my news from various sources.

    Here's some more on the US Military Gulf War Censorship:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_the_Gulf_War

    http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/05/w...-gulf-war-news-censorship.html?pagewanted=all
     
  24. Meister, Mar 31, 2016
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    Cenk, one of the founders of Tyt, was also told that he has to report what the washington establishment tells him to.

    When he refused NBC fired his ass.

    But his reputation wasn't destroyed, because he is not a threat to them.
     

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