Would there would be no Tea Party if Hilary were President

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There would be no Tea Party if Hilary were President

  1. Yes, there would be no tea party

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  2. No, there would still BE a tea party

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  1. squeeks macrumors 68040

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    Since most people here think the tea party is based on racism, how many of you really think that there would be no tea party if Hilary had won?

    Considering the fact that Hilary ran on basically the same principles as Obama, if she has won i really think all of you could be calling the tea partiers sexist:eek:

    The reason I post this is I wonder sometimes if people don't stop to consider that just maybe the tea party is against more than just Obama being black.
     
  2. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    Do they? I personally think that most tea partiers have no idea what their little group stands for.
     
  3. squeeks thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I think you might be right, especially the extremists, I believe there are about 1/4 - 1/2 mostly the original people that realize its to try and bring the conservatives together, but yes i think over half a just on board because they hate Obama, the problem is its those people that give the rest of them a bad name.
     
  4. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    What?

    The tea party from what I've seen is based on mass ignorance and people just wanting to be pissed off even if they don't understand at what. It just happens that the racists have found a comfortable crowd to blend into with the Tea Party.
     
  5. skunk macrumors G4

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    "What're you rebelling against, Johnny?"

    "Whaddya got?"

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  6. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Sure there would be. Likely with more mysogeny than racism on display, but the same monied interests that started the teabagging would have the same interest in stopping a Clinton agenda as they do in stopping an Obama agenda.

    Remember calls from Palin/McCain supporters to 'stop the b****'? Instead of the N word, we'd be seeing the B word.
     
  7. quagmire macrumors 603

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    I wouldn't be so sure. ;)

    I know one extreme conservative who thinks the 19th amendment should be repealed.

    Either way I am sure both sides have their sexists and racists.
     
  8. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Heck yes, the Tea Party would still be around.

    The only thing that scares old white men as much as blacks is strong-willed women.

    Especially ones they can't turn into sexual fantasies.






    BTW... nice double negatives in the online poll.
     
  9. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    Well, I think you've framed the question wrong. It's a reactionary mass made up of a hodgepodge of different ideas, including a chewy racist caramel center. A different history would mean a slightly different makeup, for instance, the number of women in the party would probably be down.

    The more important question to ask is, would the Tea Party exist if McCain had been elected president?
     
  10. macfan881 macrumors 68020

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    I garuantee you the only reason McCain picked Palin is cause the GOP thought Hey we can pick up the bitter Hillary supporters if we pick up a VP women had Hillary won it probally would have been McCain/Guliani or Romney.
     
  11. Dany M macrumors 6502

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    We don't know. It is the back of many of our minds whether this movement is based on race, obviously not consciously for many, but possibly subconsciously.
     
  12. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    Two important things to consider:

    Hillary almost certainly would have chosen Barak Obama for her running mate. The racism would still be there, just a little understated.

    And the Tea Party is just a seething mob of tools organized by Freedom Works, Newscorp and other corporate entities, not some populist uprising.
     
  13. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Ah, buyt recall that it was fashionable during the campaign to refer to Clinton as 'Hitlery'. It wouldn't have mattered who the nominee was, they would have been painted as illigitimate.
     
  14. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    I agree with this... a field full of angry, uninformed people is like a gold mine for racists, sexists, and wide swaths of other hate-mongers. I don't think the groundswell came from the racism. I think they're just like shooting fish in a barrel, and they get easily militarized and mobilized by the subset of ideological rabble-rousers.
     
  15. H00513R macrumors 6502a

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    +1

    But it's all speculation as we can't possibly know what route Hillary would have taken.
     
  16. eawmp1 macrumors 601

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    Where's ITN when you need him? May be the only thing he can speak to with any semblance of authority.

    And yes, economic downturns always seem to cause the disenfranchised, ignorant, and hateful to band together and hate on some one else. Comfort in numbers.
     
  17. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    It wouldn't have mattered. She would still be called a b**** and a socialist.
     
  18. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Economic climate doesn't fully explain the teabaggers though. These are by and large the same folks who drove the rise of the militia movement during the realtively prosperous '90s. And then were silent during the economic malaise and rapid expansion of both size and cost of government of the 00's under Bush.

    Sure, economic frustration magnifies these movements, but it isn't as reliable a predictor of their existence as a Democrat in the White House does.
     
  19. eawmp1 macrumors 601

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    This, and Fox + talk radio fanning the flames for ratings.
    These people have always been around. They are now more galvanized by societal factors.
     
  20. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Oh yeah- I knew they were going to show up. It's just like they were during Clinton, except worse.
     
  21. H00513R macrumors 6502a

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    I think "socialist" is the word of the year. I haven't heard that word used so many times (in the completely wrong way I might add) in my life!
     
  22. leekohler macrumors G5

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    They pulled the same crap during Clinton. These people are shameless. They're afraid of anyone who's different, and they're feeling increasingly marginalized, which they should.
     
  23. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    Marginalizing people so that they aggregate into angry flash mobs is never a good thing. All it does is add to the overall noise level. For too long (decades), we have been steeped in shouting, real productive discussion is a forgotten art.

    What really needs to happen is for the left to get off its fat ass and take a good hard run at preventing this next election from being totally derailed by this insanity.
     
  24. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Racists, homophobes and theocrats should be marginalized. I'm sorry, but certain things are simply not worth discussing and don't need to be discussed. Have you tried to talk to any of these people? I have. They aren't interested in discussing anything or learning to co-exist with others different from themselves. There was a time when trying to talk to them may have gotten us somewhere. That time has passed.
     
  25. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Their talking points are so ridiculous I don't really see how you could begin to talk to them seriously.

    I mean you'd have to explain reality to them first, which is damn hard when they are so brainwashed by Faux.
     

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