WP-ABC poll shows...voters want a magician

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  1. Thomas Veil macrumors 68020

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    Okay, whoopee. Another poll showing Americans think Obama should wave a magic wand and make the baaaaaaad ol' recession go away.

    I really wish people would smarten up and read a little so they can learn why this situation (or the BP spill, for that matter) isn't going to be solved overnight. Guess I'm just tired of hearing Americans whine about it.

    I guess I also wanted to post this because if I didn't, a certain other person almost certainly would, so he could spin it and gloat.

    Only positive side of this poll is that people obviously have even less confidence in the Republicans than they do in Obama and the Democrats. But still, this "disillusionment" and "anger" are kind of the equivalent of being upset because a flood destroyed your town and the cops aren't making the water recede faster. :rolleyes:
     
  2. squeeks macrumors 68040

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    Thats your opinion, my opinion is that people are getting tired of Obama saying "I will not rest until..." "I will not rest until..." "I will not rest until..."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhYSgPZ41WU

    and yet he continues to play golf all weekend, host many a concert at the white house, go on vacation once every 6 weeks...its no wonder the American public has had enough of his BS.

    He might not be able to "suck it up with a straw" but he can at least use the resources of this great nation to find BP some GD help before the entire gulf coast is destroyed, insted of yelling and screaming like a teenager trying to "find someone's ass to kick"

    No No the public are plenty informed.

    For some reason the people on this board seem less and less informed as to whats going on and only able to listen to the liberal media paint their rosey picture of the Obama presidency.
     
  3. yg17 macrumors G5

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    4 hours != all weekend. Even the OpEd you linked to says it wasn't a big deal.

    Spending a few hours on one night is hardly a big deal. He was at the White House, if anything came up, he was in the right place to handle it.

    Yeah, a show put on by the USO to entertain our soldiers. How awful.

    Wow...he stays at the White House for a concert, you complain. He leaves the White House, you complain. It's obvious people like you will attack the president no matter what he does. And on the subject of vacation, Bush spent 977 days on vacation during his presidency. As opposed to Obama who was on vacation 26 days during his first year, which puts him on pace for 208 days over 8 years. So you really want to complain about Obama being on vacation?

    No, the people on this board are just sick of the lies and BS the right wing puts out there.
     
  4. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    I watch the so called "liberal" media, the mainstream media (foxnews), and I listen to talk radio, and I'm not seeing much of a rosey picture being painted of this presidency.

    Maybe I'm watching the wrong channels.

    BTW, all the big oil companies are involved and have engineers working on the problem. Foreign ships are involved, as are national guards, and a ton of other resources. What more help is there? If there were some help that President Obama was ignoring, I would agree with you, but I'm not sure what else is out there.

    Personally, I think there are private resources and potential plans that might work, and at this point, I think they should be trying everything, but I'm not onsite, and I can only second guess their strategies without all of the information.
     
  5. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Obama should dive down and plug the well with Michael Moore's ass. That's the only thing that might make the right wing happy. And even then they'd find a way to complain about it.
     
  6. squeeks macrumors 68040

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    What? No comments about him acting like a teenager with his "I cant suck it up with a straw" and "find someones ass to kick" comments??

    Interesting.
     
  7. yg17 macrumors G5

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    No, because it's not a big deal. The president said ass. It's not like he called Tony Heyward a mother ****ing ****sucker. He said ass. And someone's ass does need to be kicked in this whole mess.

    And no comments about the 4th of July concert for the troops that you hate so much, or the measly 26 days Obama spent on vacation compared to Bush?
     
  8. kavika411 macrumors 6502a

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    When I read the thread title, I honestly thought/hoped that there was a poll out there asking what vocation best qualifies a president, and the polling population said magician. I need a Mountain Dew.
     
  9. squeeks macrumors 68040

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    Im sorry, i love our troops, not like John Kerry or Obama who calles them murders air raiding villages and killing innocent civilians...

    Anyway

    I think we should watch that other youtube video again :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhYSgPZ41WU

    Honestly has he done any of this stuff? Besides passing health care by buying off half a dozen votes?

    At least Bush got stuff done, he lead us through 9/11 took care of the Taliban, took care of Saddam Husain....

    Whats Obama done again?

    OH WAIT!! He's played golf once or twice :D

    Silly democrats. :p
     
  10. Disc Golfer macrumors 6502a

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    Translation:
    "I'm informed because I listen to wingnut radio, it's the whole rest of the world who is insane".
     
  11. CorvusCamenarum macrumors 65816

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    This is what happens when the candidate marketed as the savior of the country turns out to be a lightweight. Not surprising at all.
     
  12. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    Well lets look at Obama broken promises as far as the people see it.

    Obama promised health care reform and kept missing promises dead lines and what we got was pretty piss poor.

    Obama promised more jobs. Now 18 months later the jobs are not there. The economy kept losing mass number of jobs and now it is still crap. Economy is still in the crapper and the one key number that matters to people is Jobs are not being created.
    Unemployment is still crap.

    Obama approval rating dropping is his own damn fault for making promises he could not keep or failed to keep. People are seeing the truth. He is nothing more than another lieing politician. He promised hope and change and really is just more of the same with a new face.
     
  13. paddy macrumors 6502a

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    Have you any idea what a huge achievement that was? All the more thanks to the right wing extremist nutjobs spewing all the Obama is a socialist, communist, muslim crap that is making it almost impossible to get anything done. He restored some of America's credibility after that shower of goons left office. Stimulus plan.

    Yeah, he got stuff done. Just not good stuff. He didn't take care of the taliban, they're still there. Saddam didn't need taking care of, it just cost you over a trillion dollars. What did he lead you through with 9/11? There are so many catastrophic ******* ups that he made, its unbelievable.

    Now watch this drive.

    I'm probably going to be accused now of being a leftist nut or some other rubbish.

    Disagreeing with the right wing doesn't necessarily make you leftist (and even if it did, that's not exactly a bad thing.) When are the right going to get their head out of the sand and start being realistic and compromising with the other side? Republicans remind me of this piece of work.
     
  14. chrmjenkins macrumors 603

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    Obama is too elitist! Obama isn't like other Americans!

    ... Obama is so immature!


    People like to blame banks, wall street, stupid borrowers etc. for our recession, but our current economic situation is more complex than that. A good metric is comparing a CEO's pay to that of his average worker. We've regressed back to where we were right before the great depression.

    http://www.alternet.org/economy/147...re_raking_in_an_absurd_portion_of_the_wealth/
     
  15. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Apple has a 60 hour working week limit set out in their ethical criteria for suppliers. I find it very unlikely that Apple cares about how many hours their labourers work - as that is really a matter for their employers, the labourers themselves, and their government to sort out. Far more important is the fact that people deliver poor results if they are overworked.

    977 days over 8 years is 122 days/year or 2 days/week + 18 days.

    So that sounds to me like Bush took "weekends" off and a further 18 days including the 10 US public holidays - which quite frankly sounds about right.
     
  16. yg17 macrumors G5

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    By vacation, they meant time spent away from Washington, in Bush's case, it was time at Camp David plus time at his Texas ranch. He wasn't going there every weekend, he was spending weeks at a time on vacation. Weekends spent in DC don't count as vacation.
     
  17. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    But it is not like he was not doing work at his ranch or at Camp David. My guess was he was pretty well set up to do his job there with out having to be in DC. He got him away from people in DC and congressmen wanting all his time while he was in DC which allowed him to do his job.

    The president can do most of his work anywhere in the world as long as he as an internet connection. Congressmen can not as they need to be there for any debating and talking. President does not need to be.

    I personally could care less were the president does their job. Obama could be in home in Chicago as long as it was set up to handle what needs to be done.
     
  18. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    I agree! So long as a president can read, understand and respond to critical memorandums about impending terrorist acts while he's on vacation, then who cares that he's MIA (again). [/sarcasm]
     
  19. yg17 macrumors G5

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    I agree, and you have to be foolish to think that Obama or Bush didn't do any work while on vacation. Being president is a 24/7/365 job. But if he's really going to criticize Obama for being on vacation for a certain number of days, then I have to bring up the fact that Bush was on vacation for many more days.
     
  20. yojitani macrumors 68000

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    While I'm unimpressed with Obama on a number of counts, he is what I expected him to be: a fairly conservative democrat. Generally, I think a lot of Americans would like him a lot more if he didn't mangle the message so much. He tends to look very indecisive; his whole thing about bipartisanship, while well-intentioned, isn't going to look good when things start failing (like the healthcare bill). Instead, he looks like he can't take a role in leading the dems (or the country) and, when he takes action (after so long) he opens himself up to criticism for not being bipartisan. I think if he wants to win more popularity contests (in the polls), then he needs to take more determined action (kind of like, I hate to say it, Bush). He needs to drop the bipartisan spiel too. While I don't approve of this style of governance, my impression is that it's quite popular in the US.
     
  21. itcheroni macrumors 6502a

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    I have a tremendous partisan blind spot in your logic. You're assuming people are upset in the poll because the recession isn't recovering fast enough. I am personally disappointed by Obama's decisions which will make our economy even worse. Literally doing nothing would have been better. But this isn't a thread about economics, I'm just explaining why someone would disapprove of Obama and that is my reason. I think the reason other people might be upset at Obama is for similar reasons. It is not about his vacation days. People simply feel his decision making ranges from bad to ineffective.

    I do have to agree with you about smartening up and reading a little. I did become more liberal when I went to college (it's hard not to). Unfortunately, the more I learned, I eventually became less and less liberal. Seems like you have a little more smartening up to do before you're there. :)



    Why do you have to bring that up? Because anyone who criticizes Obama must have supported Bush? What about people like me who think Bush and Obama are/were both terrible?
     
  22. mcrain macrumors 68000

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    Run for office, find a way to not be bought and paid for like a republican, and not labeled a socialist on the other side.

    And hire some advisors who can assist you on economics issues.

    (edit) I did not mean that as an insult, that's what I would do.
     
  23. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    I think your assessment is accurate.
     
  24. itcheroni macrumors 6502a

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    I don't get it. Because someone criticizes Bush, without any previous mention of him, in response to an Obama criticism, I have to run for office?

    My point was people should be able to criticize Obama without having to defend Bush. It is especially annoying for me because I was a diehard anti-Bush person his entire presidency. And I'm sure many other intelligent people also feel the same way.
     
  25. MattSepeta macrumors 65816

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    Our only hope....

    [​IMG]

    But seriously...

    I want to see a normal guy with a normal public state school education with a normal degree in a normal productive field like welding or something run. No more lawyers, "community organizers," career politicians, etc. Just a normal guy with some good ideas.

    Mccrain: Do you really still think that Republicans are the only one "bought and paid for?"

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/democrats-rake-record-donations-corporations/story?id=9777742

    And what about the Union sway?

    And who said the modern GOP isn't just as socialist as the DFL (Here in MN at least)? ;)

    Its all just mish mash with the only two key divisive issues being gays and abortion. What a mess.
     

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